http://www.poetryfoundation.org/harriet/2007/05/the-public-bus-rule/ A blog from the Poetry Foundation where contemporary poets debate classic and contemporary poetry from America and around the world. Fri, 19 Mar 2010 22:27:05 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 http://www.poetryfoundation.org/harriet/2007/05/the-public-bus-rule/#comment-358 Jeffrey Mon, 21 May 2007 16:23:38 +0000 http://pf/harriet/?p=196#comment-358 Hey Ken, Great to hear from you. I'm going to be over in Germany from June 18th to the 24th. Mostly in Berlin. I'm reading in Munich on June 20th. I'll be back there in July, Munich/Augsburg area. Best wishes, Jeffrey Hey Ken,
Great to hear from you. I’m going to be over in Germany from June 18th to the 24th. Mostly in Berlin. I’m reading in Munich on June 20th. I’ll be back there in July, Munich/Augsburg area. Best wishes, Jeffrey

]]> http://www.poetryfoundation.org/harriet/2007/05/the-public-bus-rule/#comment-357 ky Mon, 21 May 2007 14:40:54 +0000 http://pf/harriet/?p=196#comment-357 great! the public bus rule! reminds me of bukowski who said, that his poems are written to be understood by everyone not only by the literature elite. so the public bus rule is a little easier...not all poems...but at least one! great! the public bus rule! reminds me of bukowski who said, that his poems are written to be understood by everyone not only by the literature elite. so the public bus rule is a little easier…not all poems…but at least one!

]]> http://www.poetryfoundation.org/harriet/2007/05/the-public-bus-rule/#comment-356 J. Bryan Shoup Mon, 21 May 2007 12:14:53 +0000 http://pf/harriet/?p=196#comment-356 Interesting. But how does this rule work in real life? Is it more that you as an established poet could read a younger poet's work and proclaim "This is the public bus poem," or can a poet declare what their public bus poem is? The difficulty, I would think, is that different people on the average public bus would respond differently to any given poem. And when you say "One poem that engages a regular person on a single listen," isn't that a difficult test to administer? Though I do think your rule is a great aspiration for each poet, I wonder how it would work in real life. That might be a fun Poetry Foundation project -- assemble folks to ride public buses with a survey-like clipboard of poems that they ask random riders to judge. See which poems get the best response. Interesting. But how does this rule work in real life? Is it more that you as an established poet could read a younger poet’s work and proclaim “This is the public bus poem,” or can a poet declare what their public bus poem is?
The difficulty, I would think, is that different people on the average public bus would respond differently to any given poem.
And when you say “One poem that engages a regular person on a single listen,” isn’t that a difficult test to administer?
Though I do think your rule is a great aspiration for each poet, I wonder how it would work in real life. That might be a fun Poetry Foundation project — assemble folks to ride public buses with a survey-like clipboard of poems that they ask random riders to judge. See which poems get the best response.

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