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		<title>By: emily warn</title>
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		<dc:creator>emily warn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 17:32:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1700 mentions?  Crikey!
You&#039;re right, though Jilly, if I have questions, I should go to the source.
Thanks for your post and the links,
Emily
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1700 mentions?  Crikey!<br />
You&#8217;re right, though Jilly, if I have questions, I should go to the source.<br />
Thanks for your post and the links,<br />
Emily<br /><span id="reportcomment_results_div_485"><a href="javascript:void(0);" onclick="reportComment( 485 );" title="Report this comment" rel="nofollow">Report this comment</a></span></p>
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		<title>By: Danielle Chapman</title>
		<link>http://www.poetryfoundation.org/harriet/2007/06/school-of-quietitude/#comment-484</link>
		<dc:creator>Danielle Chapman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 18:10:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Kenneth,
I don&#039;t think it&#039;s possible for a writer to identify with the SoQ label unless it&#039;s with irony (as with the commenter above), because it&#039;s an essentially pejorative label, with only the most  generalized characteristics.  SoQ does not define a type of poetry, but says what a kind of poetry is NOT.  SoQ for Silliman is anything that&#039;s NOT his idea of the &quot;avant-garde.&quot;
What I find most interesting to consider is the possibility that truly avant-garde work (which shatters some set of assumptions we don&#039;t even know we hold) is just as, or even more, likely to emerge from outside some codified &quot;school&quot; (like Silliman&#039;s)—i.e. from the vast, undefinable realm of Everything Else, which he calls the SoQ—as from within it.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Kenneth,<br />
I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s possible for a writer to identify with the SoQ label unless it&#8217;s with irony (as with the commenter above), because it&#8217;s an essentially pejorative label, with only the most  generalized characteristics.  SoQ does not define a type of poetry, but says what a kind of poetry is NOT.  SoQ for Silliman is anything that&#8217;s NOT his idea of the &#8220;avant-garde.&#8221;<br />
What I find most interesting to consider is the possibility that truly avant-garde work (which shatters some set of assumptions we don&#8217;t even know we hold) is just as, or even more, likely to emerge from outside some codified &#8220;school&#8221; (like Silliman&#8217;s)—i.e. from the vast, undefinable realm of Everything Else, which he calls the SoQ—as from within it.<br /><span id="reportcomment_results_div_484"><a href="javascript:void(0);" onclick="reportComment( 484 );" title="Report this comment" rel="nofollow">Report this comment</a></span></p>
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		<title>By: Jilly</title>
		<link>http://www.poetryfoundation.org/harriet/2007/06/school-of-quietitude/#comment-483</link>
		<dc:creator>Jilly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 05:26:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Emily: there are &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&amp;lr=&amp;client=firefox-a&amp;rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&amp;as_qdr=all&amp;q=Quietude+site%3Aronsilliman.blogspot.com%2F&amp;btnG=Search&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;roughly 1,700&lt;/a&gt; mentions of &quot;quietude&quot; on Mr. Silliman&#039;s blog but I think the &lt;a href=&quot;http://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/05/henry-theodore-tuckerman.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;first is mentioned here&lt;/a&gt;.
It is likely that if you ask your questions in the comments  section of a recent post of his blog you will get your answers there as well.
Take care.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Emily: there are <a href="http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&#038;lr=&#038;client=firefox-a&#038;rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&#038;as_qdr=all&#038;q=Quietude+site%3Aronsilliman.blogspot.com%2F&#038;btnG=Search" rel="nofollow">roughly 1,700</a> mentions of &#8220;quietude&#8221; on Mr. Silliman&#8217;s blog but I think the <a href="http://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/05/henry-theodore-tuckerman.html" rel="nofollow">first is mentioned here</a>.<br />
It is likely that if you ask your questions in the comments  section of a recent post of his blog you will get your answers there as well.<br />
Take care.<br /><span id="reportcomment_results_div_483"><a href="javascript:void(0);" onclick="reportComment( 483 );" title="Report this comment" rel="nofollow">Report this comment</a></span></p>
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		<title>By: Emily Warn</title>
		<link>http://www.poetryfoundation.org/harriet/2007/06/school-of-quietitude/#comment-482</link>
		<dc:creator>Emily Warn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 20:31:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uh, I don&#039;t think blogging on Harriet could ever earn a DieKu poet the tag of SoQ, or any other poet for that matter.
The problem with SoQ is shared by all categories, especially when they&#039;re used to tag groups of human beings: they are shortcuts for our brains which are too primitive to perceive or process too many stimuli or differences at one time.
In this month&#039;s POETRY magazine, which Ron Silliman has tagged SoQ, Charles Bernstein, Ange Mlinko, and Frank Bidart appear. Does that mean they&#039;re SoQ poets?
What does SoQ mean anyway?  Does anyone point to the original post on Silliman&#039;s blog?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uh, I don&#8217;t think blogging on Harriet could ever earn a DieKu poet the tag of SoQ, or any other poet for that matter.<br />
The problem with SoQ is shared by all categories, especially when they&#8217;re used to tag groups of human beings: they are shortcuts for our brains which are too primitive to perceive or process too many stimuli or differences at one time.<br />
In this month&#8217;s POETRY magazine, which Ron Silliman has tagged SoQ, Charles Bernstein, Ange Mlinko, and Frank Bidart appear. Does that mean they&#8217;re SoQ poets?<br />
What does SoQ mean anyway?  Does anyone point to the original post on Silliman&#8217;s blog?<br /><span id="reportcomment_results_div_482"><a href="javascript:void(0);" onclick="reportComment( 482 );" title="Report this comment" rel="nofollow">Report this comment</a></span></p>
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		<title>By: Brian Salchert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Salchert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jun 2007 20:32:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recently identified myself as a School of Quietude poet in a poem I wrote and then placed online in my journal.  I did so in part to alleviate the onus--call it a poetic coming out if you wish, and in part because for me it is at heart true, and partly in jest because I am so diverse.
Brian Salchert
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently identified myself as a School of Quietude poet in a poem I wrote and then placed online in my journal.  I did so in part to alleviate the onus&#8211;call it a poetic coming out if you wish, and in part because for me it is at heart true, and partly in jest because I am so diverse.<br />
Brian Salchert<br /><span id="reportcomment_results_div_481"><a href="javascript:void(0);" onclick="reportComment( 481 );" title="Report this comment" rel="nofollow">Report this comment</a></span></p>
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