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		<title>By: Alicia (A.E.)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alicia (A.E.)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 04:52:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I apologize for not getting back on these--Numbers Trouble seems to have overtaken me--but I have enjoyed these additions to my paltry pair, especially the Walcott.  There are, it seems, a lot of airport and tarmac poems (Kumin&#039;s &quot;Our Ground Time Here Will be Brief&quot;, and a fine poem in Sapphics by Marilyn Hacker whose name escapes me--she calls her daughter &quot;Cleis&quot; in it--appropriate for a Sapphic poem of course--and it ends with the daughter slinging a backpack over her shoulder...)  I don&#039;t think I would include military flights in my list.  &quot;Falling&quot; is clearly in its own special category.
It does occur to me that many poems have a sort of aerial perspective that suggest airplanes.  I never read the wonderful end of Auden&#039;s &quot;The Fall of Rome&quot;:
Altogether elsewhere, vast
Herds of reindeer move across
Miles and miles of golden moss,
Silently and very fast.
Without actually &lt;i&gt;seeing&lt;/i&gt; this in my mind&#039;s eye as though from an aerial shot in a wildlife documentary.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I apologize for not getting back on these&#8211;Numbers Trouble seems to have overtaken me&#8211;but I have enjoyed these additions to my paltry pair, especially the Walcott.  There are, it seems, a lot of airport and tarmac poems (Kumin&#8217;s &#8220;Our Ground Time Here Will be Brief&#8221;, and a fine poem in Sapphics by Marilyn Hacker whose name escapes me&#8211;she calls her daughter &#8220;Cleis&#8221; in it&#8211;appropriate for a Sapphic poem of course&#8211;and it ends with the daughter slinging a backpack over her shoulder&#8230;)  I don&#8217;t think I would include military flights in my list.  &#8220;Falling&#8221; is clearly in its own special category.<br />
It does occur to me that many poems have a sort of aerial perspective that suggest airplanes.  I never read the wonderful end of Auden&#8217;s &#8220;The Fall of Rome&#8221;:<br />
Altogether elsewhere, vast<br />
Herds of reindeer move across<br />
Miles and miles of golden moss,<br />
Silently and very fast.<br />
Without actually <i>seeing</i> this in my mind&#8217;s eye as though from an aerial shot in a wildlife documentary.<br /><span id="reportcomment_results_div_1339"><a href="javascript:void(0);" onclick="reportComment( 1339 );" title="Report this comment" rel="nofollow">Report this comment</a></span></p>
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		<title>By: rachel hadas</title>
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		<dc:creator>rachel hadas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 12:11:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a couple of plane poiem, but they are oddly muted, unmemorable - and for that matter few of the poems suggested in all the helpful comments are well known.  I ahd thought of Merrill&#039;s &quot;Flying from Byzantium&quot; too but wondered if it was really ABOUT flying - and the same might be said of my two poems, which I append but which nobody should bother to read unless they want to!  Both are unpublished - maybe for good reason?
In-Flight Movie
As if this cramped tree-top, this swift savannah
were not enough to make the message clear
over seven numbing hours, we strangers
trapped in transit, hunched together here
in Economy with less than no
room separating thigh from thigh or knee
from knee or even bent elbow from waist
are being shown a documentary
about primates.  Hierarchic, fierce:
cavortings, hunting parties, playtime.  Group
groomings and hootings gradually die down
as various families settle into sleep.
Across the aisle a father smooths a blanket
over the child sprawled sleeping in his lap -
one of those airline coverlets which more often
serve as symbolic surrogate for sleep.
The rest of us occasionally glance up
(no soundtrack needed - each supplies their own)
to verify the kinship, or to greet
the silent cousins capering onscreen.
and
Deplaning
Toleave the city, the apartment; stray
from the well-worn track where no one speaks
for half a day, a day, a week, two weeks,
bestows - perspective, I was going to say,
as if absence were coterminous
with distance.  As if I were on a plane
rising above the daily, the mundane.
As if flying cut me wholly loose.
Thinking clearly is so hard to do!
Do I mean pondering my situation
resembles flying?  Or that aviation
opens a window for a better view?
Up in the air, this is all I can see:
little earthy patches, green and brown;
meandering rivers gleaming in the sun;
then fields of billowing cloud, then simply sky.
A bump; and we return to gravity.
I unbuckle simile, deplane,
trudge out into terrestrial life again,
that hazy realm where every boundary -
so sharp seen from the vantage of the air -
melts into mist.  Cloaked like conspirators,
responsibilities, routines, and chores
beckon afresh, and choices disappear.
-Rachel Hadas
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a couple of plane poiem, but they are oddly muted, unmemorable &#8211; and for that matter few of the poems suggested in all the helpful comments are well known.  I ahd thought of Merrill&#8217;s &#8220;Flying from Byzantium&#8221; too but wondered if it was really ABOUT flying &#8211; and the same might be said of my two poems, which I append but which nobody should bother to read unless they want to!  Both are unpublished &#8211; maybe for good reason?<br />
In-Flight Movie<br />
As if this cramped tree-top, this swift savannah<br />
were not enough to make the message clear<br />
over seven numbing hours, we strangers<br />
trapped in transit, hunched together here<br />
in Economy with less than no<br />
room separating thigh from thigh or knee<br />
from knee or even bent elbow from waist<br />
are being shown a documentary<br />
about primates.  Hierarchic, fierce:<br />
cavortings, hunting parties, playtime.  Group<br />
groomings and hootings gradually die down<br />
as various families settle into sleep.<br />
Across the aisle a father smooths a blanket<br />
over the child sprawled sleeping in his lap -<br />
one of those airline coverlets which more often<br />
serve as symbolic surrogate for sleep.<br />
The rest of us occasionally glance up<br />
(no soundtrack needed &#8211; each supplies their own)<br />
to verify the kinship, or to greet<br />
the silent cousins capering onscreen.<br />
and<br />
Deplaning<br />
Toleave the city, the apartment; stray<br />
from the well-worn track where no one speaks<br />
for half a day, a day, a week, two weeks,<br />
bestows &#8211; perspective, I was going to say,<br />
as if absence were coterminous<br />
with distance.  As if I were on a plane<br />
rising above the daily, the mundane.<br />
As if flying cut me wholly loose.<br />
Thinking clearly is so hard to do!<br />
Do I mean pondering my situation<br />
resembles flying?  Or that aviation<br />
opens a window for a better view?<br />
Up in the air, this is all I can see:<br />
little earthy patches, green and brown;<br />
meandering rivers gleaming in the sun;<br />
then fields of billowing cloud, then simply sky.<br />
A bump; and we return to gravity.<br />
I unbuckle simile, deplane,<br />
trudge out into terrestrial life again,<br />
that hazy realm where every boundary -<br />
so sharp seen from the vantage of the air -<br />
melts into mist.  Cloaked like conspirators,<br />
responsibilities, routines, and chores<br />
beckon afresh, and choices disappear.<br />
-Rachel Hadas<br /><span id="reportcomment_results_div_1338"><a href="javascript:void(0);" onclick="reportComment( 1338 );" title="Report this comment" rel="nofollow">Report this comment</a></span></p>
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		<title>By: KateBB</title>
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		<dc:creator>KateBB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 17:57:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How serendipitous.  Umbrella has published two such poems, Maryann Corbett&#039;s &quot;Composed Somewhere Higher Than Westminster Bridge,&quot; which has a &quot;conversation&quot; with Wordsworth:
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.umbrellajournal.com/winter2006/poetry/MaryannCorbett.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.umbrellajournal.com/winter2006/poetry/MaryannCorbett.html&lt;/a&gt;
And John Grey&#039;s Report to Gate 20, a witty harangue:
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.umbrellajournal.com/fall2007/poetry/JohnGrey.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.umbrellajournal.com/fall2007/poetry/JohnGrey.html&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How serendipitous.  Umbrella has published two such poems, Maryann Corbett&#8217;s &#8220;Composed Somewhere Higher Than Westminster Bridge,&#8221; which has a &#8220;conversation&#8221; with Wordsworth:<br />
<a href="http://www.umbrellajournal.com/winter2006/poetry/MaryannCorbett.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.umbrellajournal.com/winter2006/poetry/MaryannCorbett.html</a><br />
And John Grey&#8217;s Report to Gate 20, a witty harangue:<br />
<a href="http://www.umbrellajournal.com/fall2007/poetry/JohnGrey.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.umbrellajournal.com/fall2007/poetry/JohnGrey.html</a><br /><span id="reportcomment_results_div_1337"><a href="javascript:void(0);" onclick="reportComment( 1337 );" title="Report this comment" rel="nofollow">Report this comment</a></span></p>
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		<title>By: jenn lewin</title>
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		<dc:creator>jenn lewin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 16:45:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No one has yet mentioned Robert Penn Warren&#039;s sequence &quot;Homage to Emerson, On Night Flight to New York,&quot; one of his better poems not least of all because it contains opaque but memorable lines like: ... &quot;At 38,000 feet Emerson// Is dead right.&quot;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No one has yet mentioned Robert Penn Warren&#8217;s sequence &#8220;Homage to Emerson, On Night Flight to New York,&#8221; one of his better poems not least of all because it contains opaque but memorable lines like: &#8230; &#8220;At 38,000 feet Emerson// Is dead right.&#8221;<br /><span id="reportcomment_results_div_1336"><a href="javascript:void(0);" onclick="reportComment( 1336 );" title="Report this comment" rel="nofollow">Report this comment</a></span></p>
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		<title>By: C. Dale</title>
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		<dc:creator>C. Dale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 04:08:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aseem Kaul beat me to it.  The Walcott poem quoted above is the one I usually think of when I think of poems about air travel.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aseem Kaul beat me to it.  The Walcott poem quoted above is the one I usually think of when I think of poems about air travel.<br /><span id="reportcomment_results_div_1335"><a href="javascript:void(0);" onclick="reportComment( 1335 );" title="Report this comment" rel="nofollow">Report this comment</a></span></p>
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		<title>By: emily dickinson</title>
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		<dc:creator>emily dickinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2007 06:52:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill Manhire: &quot;Breakfast&quot; - a flight right across the world
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill Manhire: &#8220;Breakfast&#8221; &#8211; a flight right across the world<br /><span id="reportcomment_results_div_1334"><a href="javascript:void(0);" onclick="reportComment( 1334 );" title="Report this comment" rel="nofollow">Report this comment</a></span></p>
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		<title>By: Vivek Narayanan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vivek Narayanan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2007 01:35:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This brilliant (as you say) Larkin poem is different from Whitsun Weddings, but in its own subtle way no less multidimensional.  It&#039;s a comment on the true nature of time at airports (sort of like a devilish riposte to Mann&#039;s Magic Mountain) that is contrary to all of what our civilisation continually tries to tells itself, something we all know and find it hard to admit to ourselves or accept.  And somehow, it only grows more true year after year.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This brilliant (as you say) Larkin poem is different from Whitsun Weddings, but in its own subtle way no less multidimensional.  It&#8217;s a comment on the true nature of time at airports (sort of like a devilish riposte to Mann&#8217;s Magic Mountain) that is contrary to all of what our civilisation continually tries to tells itself, something we all know and find it hard to admit to ourselves or accept.  And somehow, it only grows more true year after year.<br /><span id="reportcomment_results_div_1333"><a href="javascript:void(0);" onclick="reportComment( 1333 );" title="Report this comment" rel="nofollow">Report this comment</a></span></p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2007 01:31:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Randall Jarrell, &quot;Field and Forest&quot;!
Walcott has other air travel poems: there&#039;s a much-anthologized one beginning &quot;The airport coffee tastes less of America.&quot;
Auden&#039;s poem ending &quot;God Bless the USA, so large/ So friendly and so rich.&quot;
Several poems by John Tranter.
Merrill&#039;s &quot;Flying to Byzantium.&quot;
Michael Blumenthal&#039;s &quot;Over Ohio.&quot;
Auden: &quot;Consider this and in our time/ As the hawk sees it, or the helmeted airman&quot;-- though that&#039;s a military air poem (cp. &quot;An Irish Airman Foresees His Death&quot;).
Thom Gunn, &quot;Small Plane in Kansas,&quot; though, again, that&#039;s not about major airports and commercial air travel either.
I really like airports, honestly-- they&#039;re like the badly-dressed cousins of libraries, and who doesn&#039;t love libraries?
There&#039;s also &lt;a href=&quot;http://thediagram.com/7_4/burt.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this new poem&lt;/a&gt; about flying into JFK from points north, though I have no idea whether it&#039;s any good.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Randall Jarrell, &#8220;Field and Forest&#8221;!<br />
Walcott has other air travel poems: there&#8217;s a much-anthologized one beginning &#8220;The airport coffee tastes less of America.&#8221;<br />
Auden&#8217;s poem ending &#8220;God Bless the USA, so large/ So friendly and so rich.&#8221;<br />
Several poems by John Tranter.<br />
Merrill&#8217;s &#8220;Flying to Byzantium.&#8221;<br />
Michael Blumenthal&#8217;s &#8220;Over Ohio.&#8221;<br />
Auden: &#8220;Consider this and in our time/ As the hawk sees it, or the helmeted airman&#8221;&#8211; though that&#8217;s a military air poem (cp. &#8220;An Irish Airman Foresees His Death&#8221;).<br />
Thom Gunn, &#8220;Small Plane in Kansas,&#8221; though, again, that&#8217;s not about major airports and commercial air travel either.<br />
I really like airports, honestly&#8211; they&#8217;re like the badly-dressed cousins of libraries, and who doesn&#8217;t love libraries?<br />
There&#8217;s also <a href="http://thediagram.com/7_4/burt.html" rel="nofollow">this new poem</a> about flying into JFK from points north, though I have no idea whether it&#8217;s any good.<br /><span id="reportcomment_results_div_1332"><a href="javascript:void(0);" onclick="reportComment( 1332 );" title="Report this comment" rel="nofollow">Report this comment</a></span></p>
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		<title>By: Aseem Kaul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aseem Kaul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2007 20:29:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about this:
I.
The jet bores like silverfish through volumes of cloud -
clouds that will keep no record of where we have passed,
nor the sea&#039;s mirror, nor the coral busy with it&#039;s own
culture; they aren&#039;t doors of dissolving stone,
but pages in a damp culture that come apart.
So a hole in their parchment opens, and suddenly, in a vast
dereliction of sunlight, there&#039;s that island known
to the traveller Trollope, and the fellow traveller Froude,
for making nothing. Not even a people. The jet&#039;s shadow
ripples over green jungles as steadily as a minnow
through seaweed. Our sunlight is shared by Rome
and your white paper, Joseph. Here, as everywhere else,
it is the same age. In cities, in settlements of mud,
light has never had epochs. Near the rusty harbour
around Port of Spain bright suburbs fade into words -
Maraval, Diego Martin - the highways long as regrets
and steeples so tiny you couldn&#039;t hear their bells,
nor the sharp exclamations of whitewashed minarets
from green villages. The lowering window resounds
over pages of earth, the canefields set in stanzas.
Skimming over an ocher swamp like a fast cloud of egrets
are nouns that find their branches as simply as birds.
It comes too fast, this shelving sense of home -
canes rushing the wing, a fence; a world that still stands as
the trundling tires keep shaking and shaking the heart.
- Derek Walcott, from &#039;Midsummer&#039;.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about this:<br />
I.<br />
The jet bores like silverfish through volumes of cloud -<br />
clouds that will keep no record of where we have passed,<br />
nor the sea&#8217;s mirror, nor the coral busy with it&#8217;s own<br />
culture; they aren&#8217;t doors of dissolving stone,<br />
but pages in a damp culture that come apart.<br />
So a hole in their parchment opens, and suddenly, in a vast<br />
dereliction of sunlight, there&#8217;s that island known<br />
to the traveller Trollope, and the fellow traveller Froude,<br />
for making nothing. Not even a people. The jet&#8217;s shadow<br />
ripples over green jungles as steadily as a minnow<br />
through seaweed. Our sunlight is shared by Rome<br />
and your white paper, Joseph. Here, as everywhere else,<br />
it is the same age. In cities, in settlements of mud,<br />
light has never had epochs. Near the rusty harbour<br />
around Port of Spain bright suburbs fade into words -<br />
Maraval, Diego Martin &#8211; the highways long as regrets<br />
and steeples so tiny you couldn&#8217;t hear their bells,<br />
nor the sharp exclamations of whitewashed minarets<br />
from green villages. The lowering window resounds<br />
over pages of earth, the canefields set in stanzas.<br />
Skimming over an ocher swamp like a fast cloud of egrets<br />
are nouns that find their branches as simply as birds.<br />
It comes too fast, this shelving sense of home -<br />
canes rushing the wing, a fence; a world that still stands as<br />
the trundling tires keep shaking and shaking the heart.<br />
- Derek Walcott, from &#8216;Midsummer&#8217;.<br /><span id="reportcomment_results_div_1331"><a href="javascript:void(0);" onclick="reportComment( 1331 );" title="Report this comment" rel="nofollow">Report this comment</a></span></p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Shields</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Shields</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2007 20:15:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Australian poet Dennis Haskell&#039;s &quot;Samuel Johnson in Marrickville&quot; has some good airplane poems, especially one called &quot;Night Flight.&quot;
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		<title>By: Don Share</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don Share</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2007 18:34:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You probably don&#039;t want to count &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.poetryfoundation.org/archive/poem.html?id=171431&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;James Dickey&#039;s &quot;Falling&quot;&lt;/a&gt;:
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