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		<title>By: Ange</title>
		<link>http://www.poetryfoundation.org/harriet/2007/10/quick-review-05/#comment-1189</link>
		<dc:creator>Ange</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 15:53:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure Boully invented the form. In 2001, Burning Deck published a chapbook by Jennifer Martenson (you can see it &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.burningdeck.com/catalog/martenson.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;) that pioneered the footnotes-without-a-body idea. It&#039;s a bit harder edged than Boully, though dealing with a tangential topic: not &quot;the body&quot; but &quot;the gay gene.&quot;
Martenson is quite unique -- and quite awol. She has disappeared from view, like many a talented poet who can wisely separate the work from the career.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure Boully invented the form. In 2001, Burning Deck published a chapbook by Jennifer Martenson (you can see it <a href="http://www.burningdeck.com/catalog/martenson.htm" rel="nofollow">here</a>) that pioneered the footnotes-without-a-body idea. It&#8217;s a bit harder edged than Boully, though dealing with a tangential topic: not &#8220;the body&#8221; but &#8220;the gay gene.&#8221;<br />
Martenson is quite unique &#8212; and quite awol. She has disappeared from view, like many a talented poet who can wisely separate the work from the career.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Share</title>
		<link>http://www.poetryfoundation.org/harriet/2007/10/quick-review-05/#comment-1188</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Share</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 17:07:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Folks might like to check out our handy-dandy archive feature on Winters &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.poetryfoundation.org/archive/poet.html?id=81799&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.  As for Donald Davie, one of my favorite things of his is the introduction he wrote to the Penguin Classics volume, &lt;i&gt;Psalms in English&lt;/i&gt;... and I also love John Peck&#039;s sometimes overlooked &lt;i&gt;Poems and Translations of Hi-Lo&lt;/i&gt;;  there&#039;s an interview with Peck about Winters and other things &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nd.edu/~ndr/issues/ndr14/wilmer/peckinterview.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Folks might like to check out our handy-dandy archive feature on Winters <a href="http://www.poetryfoundation.org/archive/poet.html?id=81799" rel="nofollow">here</a>.  As for Donald Davie, one of my favorite things of his is the introduction he wrote to the Penguin Classics volume, <i>Psalms in English</i>&#8230; and I also love John Peck&#8217;s sometimes overlooked <i>Poems and Translations of Hi-Lo</i>;  there&#8217;s an interview with Peck about Winters and other things <a href="http://www.nd.edu/~ndr/issues/ndr14/wilmer/peckinterview.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Archambeau</title>
		<link>http://www.poetryfoundation.org/harriet/2007/10/quick-review-05/#comment-1187</link>
		<dc:creator>Archambeau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 16:35:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although I&#039;d had hopes for the book (called &lt;i&gt;Laureates and Heretics&lt;/i&gt;) to come out this fall, it looks like it will be on Notre Dame&#039;s spring list.  No fault of theirs: I&#039;ve been too busy on a new book to do all of the loose-end tie-ups on a timely basis.
I&#039;m a fan of all the poets in the book: Winters, Hass, Pinsky, McMichael, Peck, and Matthias.  The range of talent is quite diverse, though, and I imagine very few people who read the book will be fans of all of the poets.  Most Peck readers aren&#039;t that interested in Pinsky; most Pinsky readers haven&#039;t heard of Peck.  And I have a feeling some acolyte of Winters will have at me in a review for praising the young, modernist Winters as well as the older, anti-modernist Winters.  But all press is good press, right?
That said, I do think John Matthias is the jewel in the crown of Stanford poetry.  That more people in the US don&#039;t know about him is probably a product of his having spent so many years in England, and his avoidance of the poetry reading circuit: you don&#039;t get famous in South Bend.  (I always thought that should be the city&#039;s motto).
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although I&#8217;d had hopes for the book (called <i>Laureates and Heretics</i>) to come out this fall, it looks like it will be on Notre Dame&#8217;s spring list.  No fault of theirs: I&#8217;ve been too busy on a new book to do all of the loose-end tie-ups on a timely basis.<br />
I&#8217;m a fan of all the poets in the book: Winters, Hass, Pinsky, McMichael, Peck, and Matthias.  The range of talent is quite diverse, though, and I imagine very few people who read the book will be fans of all of the poets.  Most Peck readers aren&#8217;t that interested in Pinsky; most Pinsky readers haven&#8217;t heard of Peck.  And I have a feeling some acolyte of Winters will have at me in a review for praising the young, modernist Winters as well as the older, anti-modernist Winters.  But all press is good press, right?<br />
That said, I do think John Matthias is the jewel in the crown of Stanford poetry.  That more people in the US don&#8217;t know about him is probably a product of his having spent so many years in England, and his avoidance of the poetry reading circuit: you don&#8217;t get famous in South Bend.  (I always thought that should be the city&#8217;s motto).</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.poetryfoundation.org/harriet/2007/10/quick-review-05/#comment-1186</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 15:53:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert Archambeau, are you reading this blog this week? Can you tell us if your book has a pub date? I&#039;m looking forward to it soon.
Francisco, are you reading &lt;a href=&quot;http://samizdatblog.blogspot.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Robert&#039;s blog?&lt;/a&gt;
On the rest of those five poets (did all of them study with Davie?), you might check out Robert von Hallberg&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.hup.harvard.edu/catalog/VONAME.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;earlier book.&lt;/a&gt; Though now we&#039;re rather far away from Boully...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert Archambeau, are you reading this blog this week? Can you tell us if your book has a pub date? I&#8217;m looking forward to it soon.<br />
Francisco, are you reading <a href="http://samizdatblog.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">Robert&#8217;s blog?</a><br />
On the rest of those five poets (did all of them study with Davie?), you might check out Robert von Hallberg&#8217;s <a href="http://www.hup.harvard.edu/catalog/VONAME.html" rel="nofollow">earlier book.</a> Though now we&#8217;re rather far away from Boully&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Francisco Aragon</title>
		<link>http://www.poetryfoundation.org/harriet/2007/10/quick-review-05/#comment-1185</link>
		<dc:creator>Francisco Aragon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 13:45:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adding to the chorus:
I had the privilege of having Jenny as a classmate at Notre Dame a few years back, during which she published The Body and remember relishing the collection in manuscript. I can also attest to how interesting her forthcoming book will be as I heard her read generous selections from it at conference on avant-garde poetics at Notre Dame shortly after she finished there.
And a tad more:
I think Jenny would agree with me if I ventured to say probably one her most influential mentors at Notre Dame is also one of American Poetry&#039;s most under-appreciated figures. While the mainstream poetry world seems to be wrapped up with recent publication of Time and Materials (which I do look forward to reading), also recent and no less important, in my view, is the publication of Kedging: New Poems (Salt Modern Poets) by John Matthias, who taught Jenny Boully at Notre Dame and, in many respects, has been a huge influence on her work. Matthias was at Stanford during the same years as the more well-knwn former US poet laureates. But I&#039;ve long come to the conclusion that he&#039;s the most interesting of his group for greater range and scope. He&#039;s that rare poet who can work well out of more than one strand of American verse: the one coming out of the more fashionable lyric/narrative mode, but also out of the more innovative mode. And he&#039;s also an accomplished translator.
I think, and hope his work will become more appreciated once Robert Archambeau&#039;s book on the &quot;Stanford five&quot; (Matthais, Hass, Peck, Pinsky, McMichael) gets published by Notre Dame Press soon.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adding to the chorus:<br />
I had the privilege of having Jenny as a classmate at Notre Dame a few years back, during which she published The Body and remember relishing the collection in manuscript. I can also attest to how interesting her forthcoming book will be as I heard her read generous selections from it at conference on avant-garde poetics at Notre Dame shortly after she finished there.<br />
And a tad more:<br />
I think Jenny would agree with me if I ventured to say probably one her most influential mentors at Notre Dame is also one of American Poetry&#8217;s most under-appreciated figures. While the mainstream poetry world seems to be wrapped up with recent publication of Time and Materials (which I do look forward to reading), also recent and no less important, in my view, is the publication of Kedging: New Poems (Salt Modern Poets) by John Matthias, who taught Jenny Boully at Notre Dame and, in many respects, has been a huge influence on her work. Matthias was at Stanford during the same years as the more well-knwn former US poet laureates. But I&#8217;ve long come to the conclusion that he&#8217;s the most interesting of his group for greater range and scope. He&#8217;s that rare poet who can work well out of more than one strand of American verse: the one coming out of the more fashionable lyric/narrative mode, but also out of the more innovative mode. And he&#8217;s also an accomplished translator.<br />
I think, and hope his work will become more appreciated once Robert Archambeau&#8217;s book on the &#8220;Stanford five&#8221; (Matthais, Hass, Peck, Pinsky, McMichael) gets published by Notre Dame Press soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Rigoberto</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rigoberto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 08:03:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too am a huge fan of Jenny Boully and am looking forward to her newest project, a collection of essays--though who knows how this artist will subvert, reinterpret and reimagine that concept--coming out next month with Sarabande. It&#039;s called THE BOOK OF BEGINNINGS AND ENDINGS. Boully is a superb writer.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too am a huge fan of Jenny Boully and am looking forward to her newest project, a collection of essays&#8211;though who knows how this artist will subvert, reinterpret and reimagine that concept&#8211;coming out next month with Sarabande. It&#8217;s called THE BOOK OF BEGINNINGS AND ENDINGS. Boully is a superb writer.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.poetryfoundation.org/harriet/2007/10/quick-review-05/#comment-1183</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 02:04:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a good book. A fun book, too. The individual parts are often as inventive as the overall form.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a good book. A fun book, too. The individual parts are often as inventive as the overall form.</p>
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