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		<title>By: Ange</title>
		<link>http://www.poetryfoundation.org/harriet/2007/10/too-much-like-cooking/#comment-1144</link>
		<dc:creator>Ange</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 16:01:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could you fix the link to the Perkins, Steve? You linked to Paglia twice...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could you fix the link to the Perkins, Steve? You linked to Paglia twice&#8230;<br /><span id="reportcomment_results_div_1144"><a href="javascript:void(0);" onclick="reportComment( 1144 );" title="Report this comment" rel="nofollow">Report this comment</a></span></p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.poetryfoundation.org/harriet/2007/10/too-much-like-cooking/#comment-1143</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2007 12:26:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can find my &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/07/28/AR2005072801569.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;reaction&lt;/a&gt; to the Paglia book here.
As for that Perkins book, what sticks in my mind most about it is the book he &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/07/28/AR2005072801569.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;wrote later&lt;/a&gt; about whether he should have written it; that later book is one I recommend.
&quot;Not so much,&quot; above, refers to the Koch recommendation, not to Don&#039;s comments about audio. (I don&#039;t know what I think of audio in anthologies, except that it must be expensive for publishers.)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can find my <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/07/28/AR2005072801569.html" rel="nofollow">reaction</a> to the Paglia book here.<br />
As for that Perkins book, what sticks in my mind most about it is the book he <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/07/28/AR2005072801569.html" rel="nofollow">wrote later</a> about whether he should have written it; that later book is one I recommend.<br />
&#8220;Not so much,&#8221; above, refers to the Koch recommendation, not to Don&#8217;s comments about audio. (I don&#8217;t know what I think of audio in anthologies, except that it must be expensive for publishers.)<br /><span id="reportcomment_results_div_1143"><a href="javascript:void(0);" onclick="reportComment( 1143 );" title="Report this comment" rel="nofollow">Report this comment</a></span></p>
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		<title>By: Ange</title>
		<link>http://www.poetryfoundation.org/harriet/2007/10/too-much-like-cooking/#comment-1142</link>
		<dc:creator>Ange</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 16:37:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve,
The one book you haven&#039;t mentioned that pops to mind is Perkins&#039;s &lt;i&gt;A History of Modern Poetry&lt;/i&gt; -- though it was years ago when I read it, and I remember the style as being pretty academic. But it was a useful critical overview.
I haven&#039;t seen Ross&#039;s book yet, but I have a feeling it&#039;s going to be one of those spousal xmas gifts that are really for oneself. He&#039;s a wonderful writer, but you are too, so I think if you just concentrate on the sentences, the rest will fall into place.
Come to think of it, didn&#039;t Camille Paglia&#039;s book attempt something like this? Not a comprehensive overview, but a layman&#039;s introduction to modern poetry as a pleasure. I wasn&#039;t enamored of it, but I wonder how well it did in general terms.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve,<br />
The one book you haven&#8217;t mentioned that pops to mind is Perkins&#8217;s <i>A History of Modern Poetry</i> &#8212; though it was years ago when I read it, and I remember the style as being pretty academic. But it was a useful critical overview.<br />
I haven&#8217;t seen Ross&#8217;s book yet, but I have a feeling it&#8217;s going to be one of those spousal xmas gifts that are really for oneself. He&#8217;s a wonderful writer, but you are too, so I think if you just concentrate on the sentences, the rest will fall into place.<br />
Come to think of it, didn&#8217;t Camille Paglia&#8217;s book attempt something like this? Not a comprehensive overview, but a layman&#8217;s introduction to modern poetry as a pleasure. I wasn&#8217;t enamored of it, but I wonder how well it did in general terms.<br /><span id="reportcomment_results_div_1142"><a href="javascript:void(0);" onclick="reportComment( 1142 );" title="Report this comment" rel="nofollow">Report this comment</a></span></p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.poetryfoundation.org/harriet/2007/10/too-much-like-cooking/#comment-1141</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 16:24:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not so much: books about how to read poetry, and/or how to write poetry, for beginners are a different animal from books about how to read a given gaggle or a particular historical line of poets.
By the way, are you related to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.aaa.si.edu/collections/findingaids/index.cfm/fuseaction/Collections.ViewCollection/CollectionID/10986&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this John Bernard Myers,&lt;/a&gt; or just an admirer of that important art-world figure and publisher?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not so much: books about how to read poetry, and/or how to write poetry, for beginners are a different animal from books about how to read a given gaggle or a particular historical line of poets.<br />
By the way, are you related to <a href="http://www.aaa.si.edu/collections/findingaids/index.cfm/fuseaction/Collections.ViewCollection/CollectionID/10986" rel="nofollow">this John Bernard Myers,</a> or just an admirer of that important art-world figure and publisher?<br /><span id="reportcomment_results_div_1141"><a href="javascript:void(0);" onclick="reportComment( 1141 );" title="Report this comment" rel="nofollow">Report this comment</a></span></p>
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		<title>By: Don Share</title>
		<link>http://www.poetryfoundation.org/harriet/2007/10/too-much-like-cooking/#comment-1140</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Share</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 16:21:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And also &lt;i&gt;Sleeping on the Wing: An Anthology of Modern Poetry with Essays on Reading and Writing&lt;/i&gt;, by Koch, again, along with Kate Farrell, though it obviously doesn&#039;t go up to last week.
I&#039;m biased in another direction, which would be to include poetry audio along the lines of &lt;i&gt;Poetry Speaks&lt;/i&gt; - recordings accompanied by the texts, essays by good poets, reproductions of manuscript material and photos...  but I&#039;d say the poet&#039;s voice should be included.  My 80-year old father, who&#039;d never had any prior interest in poetry, recently heard a recording of the late Alan Dugan reading &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.npr.org/programs/atc/features/2001/nov/dugan/011115.dugan.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;Closing Time at the Second Avenue Deli&quot;&lt;/a&gt; and got hooked!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And also <i>Sleeping on the Wing: An Anthology of Modern Poetry with Essays on Reading and Writing</i>, by Koch, again, along with Kate Farrell, though it obviously doesn&#8217;t go up to last week.<br />
I&#8217;m biased in another direction, which would be to include poetry audio along the lines of <i>Poetry Speaks</i> &#8211; recordings accompanied by the texts, essays by good poets, reproductions of manuscript material and photos&#8230;  but I&#8217;d say the poet&#8217;s voice should be included.  My 80-year old father, who&#8217;d never had any prior interest in poetry, recently heard a recording of the late Alan Dugan reading <a href="http://www.npr.org/programs/atc/features/2001/nov/dugan/011115.dugan.html" rel="nofollow">&#8220;Closing Time at the Second Avenue Deli&#8221;</a> and got hooked!<br /><span id="reportcomment_results_div_1140"><a href="javascript:void(0);" onclick="reportComment( 1140 );" title="Report this comment" rel="nofollow">Report this comment</a></span></p>
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		<title>By: John Bernard Myers</title>
		<link>http://www.poetryfoundation.org/harriet/2007/10/too-much-like-cooking/#comment-1139</link>
		<dc:creator>John Bernard Myers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 14:31:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aren&#039;t you forgetting Making Your Own Days: The Pleasures of Reading and Writing Poetry by Kenneth Koch?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aren&#8217;t you forgetting Making Your Own Days: The Pleasures of Reading and Writing Poetry by Kenneth Koch?<br /><span id="reportcomment_results_div_1139"><a href="javascript:void(0);" onclick="reportComment( 1139 );" title="Report this comment" rel="nofollow">Report this comment</a></span></p>
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