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		<title>By: Alicia (A.E.)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alicia (A.E.)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 08:10:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for these comments...  The snow is all gone now!  John, I appreciate what you are saying--how does anyone write about where they live.  Good question.  I guess here so many things--the Acropolis, the &quot;special quality of the light&quot;, etc., are common props in travel poems of a certain ilk...  while other aspects of life Athens would actually be too foreign in some ways to be grasped by an American audience--and I do feel my audience is largely an American one.  Hmmm.
Daisy, I think self-suspicious perspective is exactly what is lacking from bad travel writing!  And awakeness is what is present in good.  There&#039;s a pretty interesting book, The Oxford Book of Travel Verse, which is divided up by places.  It&#039;s dated (1989) but in some ways the more interesting for that...
Steve, OK I&#039;ll let you know if I ever write my Desperate Aegean Housewives...  I&#039;m not sure it took any spirit to ex-patriate--a certain amount of ignorance was helpful!  My husband is Greek and we opted to try life here for a couple of years--that was about 9 years ago.
The cartoon was a complete surprise--I just opened the web site one day and there it was.  I think it is pretty nifty,  Of course, it is strange to see the poem set in another city, and with the speaker&#039;s gender reversed (at least how I read it), but mostly my reaction is... cool!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for these comments&#8230;  The snow is all gone now!  John, I appreciate what you are saying&#8211;how does anyone write about where they live.  Good question.  I guess here so many things&#8211;the Acropolis, the &#8220;special quality of the light&#8221;, etc., are common props in travel poems of a certain ilk&#8230;  while other aspects of life Athens would actually be too foreign in some ways to be grasped by an American audience&#8211;and I do feel my audience is largely an American one.  Hmmm.<br />
Daisy, I think self-suspicious perspective is exactly what is lacking from bad travel writing!  And awakeness is what is present in good.  There&#8217;s a pretty interesting book, The Oxford Book of Travel Verse, which is divided up by places.  It&#8217;s dated (1989) but in some ways the more interesting for that&#8230;<br />
Steve, OK I&#8217;ll let you know if I ever write my Desperate Aegean Housewives&#8230;  I&#8217;m not sure it took any spirit to ex-patriate&#8211;a certain amount of ignorance was helpful!  My husband is Greek and we opted to try life here for a couple of years&#8211;that was about 9 years ago.<br />
The cartoon was a complete surprise&#8211;I just opened the web site one day and there it was.  I think it is pretty nifty,  Of course, it is strange to see the poem set in another city, and with the speaker&#8217;s gender reversed (at least how I read it), but mostly my reaction is&#8230; cool!<br /><span id="reportcomment_results_div_2883"><a href="javascript:void(0);" onclick="reportComment( 2883 );" title="Report this comment" rel="nofollow">Report this comment</a></span></p>
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		<title>By: Steve Mackin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Mackin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 20:50:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Snow on the Parthenon&quot; is such an evocative image.  I&#039;m culturally conditioned to think when hearing or reading &quot;Parthenon&quot; of luminous stone under aureate light.  To think of it grey under brittle white is an interesting thing.   I admire your spirit in expatriating.  I could never do it.  Once I almost had someone talk me into moving to England, to Cornwall.  She failed to convince me to leave my beautiful home.  Also, I find John&#039;s question interesting, who can write about where they live?  My thought is, who can write about anything else?  It seems to be all I ever write about.  And with regards to an Aegean Desperate Housewives; it would be a guaranteed best seller.
But all that is beside the point.  The main reason I&#039;m posting is to ask, what do you think of the Comic Strip?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Snow on the Parthenon&#8221; is such an evocative image.  I&#8217;m culturally conditioned to think when hearing or reading &#8220;Parthenon&#8221; of luminous stone under aureate light.  To think of it grey under brittle white is an interesting thing.   I admire your spirit in expatriating.  I could never do it.  Once I almost had someone talk me into moving to England, to Cornwall.  She failed to convince me to leave my beautiful home.  Also, I find John&#8217;s question interesting, who can write about where they live?  My thought is, who can write about anything else?  It seems to be all I ever write about.  And with regards to an Aegean Desperate Housewives; it would be a guaranteed best seller.<br />
But all that is beside the point.  The main reason I&#8217;m posting is to ask, what do you think of the Comic Strip?<br /><span id="reportcomment_results_div_2882"><a href="javascript:void(0);" onclick="reportComment( 2882 );" title="Report this comment" rel="nofollow">Report this comment</a></span></p>
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		<title>By: daisy</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:14:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alicia--
I know what you mean. The thing about travel poems for me is that traveling gives one the wide awake feeling that feels right for writing poems, yet it&#039;s also hard to write good travel poems (for someone like me, who goes for two months at a time) that have something at stake, because it&#039;s in one&#039;s regular life that at stake-ness happens. Am I just repeating what you&#039;re saying from the non-resident&#039;s self-suspicious perspective? My travel poems tend to be very journalistic--and so I don&#039;t try to publish them--it&#039;s not what I want my poems to do. I do like having them as a record. But my most successful one, which I did publish, is, I think, about being American, and is a political poem. That&#039;s one way I&#039;ve dealt with it. Which is to say, NOT &quot;I walked up the Acropolis and skinny dipped off Naxos on my spring vacation and I feel great and not as bored as I was in America and this metaphor came to me.&quot; Heh.
Daisy
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alicia&#8211;<br />
I know what you mean. The thing about travel poems for me is that traveling gives one the wide awake feeling that feels right for writing poems, yet it&#8217;s also hard to write good travel poems (for someone like me, who goes for two months at a time) that have something at stake, because it&#8217;s in one&#8217;s regular life that at stake-ness happens. Am I just repeating what you&#8217;re saying from the non-resident&#8217;s self-suspicious perspective? My travel poems tend to be very journalistic&#8211;and so I don&#8217;t try to publish them&#8211;it&#8217;s not what I want my poems to do. I do like having them as a record. But my most successful one, which I did publish, is, I think, about being American, and is a political poem. That&#8217;s one way I&#8217;ve dealt with it. Which is to say, NOT &#8220;I walked up the Acropolis and skinny dipped off Naxos on my spring vacation and I feel great and not as bored as I was in America and this metaphor came to me.&#8221; Heh.<br />
Daisy<br /><span id="reportcomment_results_div_2881"><a href="javascript:void(0);" onclick="reportComment( 2881 );" title="Report this comment" rel="nofollow">Report this comment</a></span></p>
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		<title>By: John Blackard</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Blackard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 11:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How does anyone write about where they live-- whether they&#039;re native to the place or not? I&#039;ve lived in and around this North Carolina town most of my life, and it&#039;s always felt foreign to me. Most of the places I remember here don&#039;t even exist anymore. I think we&#039;re all travel writers on some level. Maybe time travelers. I know I&#039;m still haunted by places I visited and people I met the summer I traveled in Greece thirty-five years ago. The trip changed the way I thought about myself and about the spirit of place. By the way, it snowed here on Valentine&#039;s Day, which rarely happens anymore. Cheers!
John Blackard
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How does anyone write about where they live&#8211; whether they&#8217;re native to the place or not? I&#8217;ve lived in and around this North Carolina town most of my life, and it&#8217;s always felt foreign to me. Most of the places I remember here don&#8217;t even exist anymore. I think we&#8217;re all travel writers on some level. Maybe time travelers. I know I&#8217;m still haunted by places I visited and people I met the summer I traveled in Greece thirty-five years ago. The trip changed the way I thought about myself and about the spirit of place. By the way, it snowed here on Valentine&#8217;s Day, which rarely happens anymore. Cheers!<br />
John Blackard<br />
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