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	<title>Comments on: This Is Just to Say</title>
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		<title>By: Mary Meriam</title>
		<link>http://www.poetryfoundation.org/harriet/2008/03/this-is-just-to-say/#comment-3032</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary Meriam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 04:24:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Greatness is the worse kind of advertising: good work demands more than a slogan, more than platitudes, more than superlatives, more than favor, more, more, more—it keeps demanding and questioning--refusing hagiography, refusing memorials, refusing labels, refusing in-groups and out-groups, refusing to be done.&lt;/i&gt;
I kind of like this one, Jonathan David Jackson. More, more, more, how do you like it, how do you like it - (remember that song, Reginald?)  [Good work] keeps demanding and questioning - yes, it does.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Greatness is the worse kind of advertising: good work demands more than a slogan, more than platitudes, more than superlatives, more than favor, more, more, more—it keeps demanding and questioning&#8211;refusing hagiography, refusing memorials, refusing labels, refusing in-groups and out-groups, refusing to be done.</i><br />
I kind of like this one, Jonathan David Jackson. More, more, more, how do you like it, how do you like it &#8211; (remember that song, Reginald?)  [Good work] keeps demanding and questioning &#8211; yes, it does.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan David Jackson</title>
		<link>http://www.poetryfoundation.org/harriet/2008/03/this-is-just-to-say/#comment-3031</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan David Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 15:23:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear world:
&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Narrow sight means narrow vision.
&lt;li&gt;The more I think about whether my art is experimental or traditional the less I get done.
&lt;li&gt;Traditional and experimental: these are as constitutive, shifting, and perceptual as the other great descriptive fictions of our age: race, gender, sexuality and beyond.
&lt;li&gt;Where is your generosity as a reader, as a writer?
&lt;li&gt;Don’t swallow stones just because they glitter; don’t eat spoiled meat even if it smells sweet.
&lt;li&gt;Anything can be turned: the subversive becomes fashionable; the commonplace, cutting-edge.
&lt;li&gt;What is the structural principle within the work?
&lt;li&gt;How does (or does not) the work’s structural principle animate &lt;i&gt;substance&lt;/i&gt; over surface effect?
&lt;li&gt;How does—-how will-—the work endure?
&lt;li&gt;Good work is its own recognition so why worry about who gets awards?
&lt;li&gt;Complaints, controversies, and concepts are curious: they purport to bring us closer to the work through heightened discussion while simultaneously distancing us from the particularities of the art itself
&lt;li&gt;If you become enraged or aggrieved when you read a work that does not conform to your ideals to the point where you label, rant, rail, and condemn, then you need to make a trip to Darfur in Sudan or to any number of inner city environments or even to a foreclosed house in the suburbs so you may rediscover your generosity and relocate what is dire in our age.
&lt;li&gt;If a mosquito could pull a plow then I would surely hook her up.
&lt;li&gt;I’d rather be an &lt;i&gt;artisan&lt;/i&gt; like an unsightly plumber, pants-ill-fitted, kneeling before open pipes, then an &lt;i&gt;artist&lt;/i&gt; who is overly concerned with the lie of greatness and the devilry of my work’s reception.
&lt;li&gt;Favor really is deceit.
&lt;li&gt;As soon as you feel you are entitled to something as an artist you have already missed the generous point of your practice.
&lt;li&gt;Your work is no more important anyone else’s.
&lt;li&gt;Greatness is the worse kind of advertising: good work demands more than a slogan, more than platitudes, more than superlatives, more than favor, more, more, more—it keeps demanding and questioning--refusing hagiography, refusing memorials, refusing labels, refusing in-groups and out-groups, refusing to be done.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;Sincerely yours,
Jonathan David Jackson
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear world:</p>
<ul>
<li>Narrow sight means narrow vision.
</li>
<li>The more I think about whether my art is experimental or traditional the less I get done.
</li>
<li>Traditional and experimental: these are as constitutive, shifting, and perceptual as the other great descriptive fictions of our age: race, gender, sexuality and beyond.
</li>
<li>Where is your generosity as a reader, as a writer?
</li>
<li>Don’t swallow stones just because they glitter; don’t eat spoiled meat even if it smells sweet.
</li>
<li>Anything can be turned: the subversive becomes fashionable; the commonplace, cutting-edge.
</li>
<li>What is the structural principle within the work?
</li>
<li>How does (or does not) the work’s structural principle animate <i>substance</i> over surface effect?
</li>
<li>How does—-how will-—the work endure?
</li>
<li>Good work is its own recognition so why worry about who gets awards?
</li>
<li>Complaints, controversies, and concepts are curious: they purport to bring us closer to the work through heightened discussion while simultaneously distancing us from the particularities of the art itself
</li>
<li>If you become enraged or aggrieved when you read a work that does not conform to your ideals to the point where you label, rant, rail, and condemn, then you need to make a trip to Darfur in Sudan or to any number of inner city environments or even to a foreclosed house in the suburbs so you may rediscover your generosity and relocate what is dire in our age.
</li>
<li>If a mosquito could pull a plow then I would surely hook her up.
</li>
<li>I’d rather be an <i>artisan</i> like an unsightly plumber, pants-ill-fitted, kneeling before open pipes, then an <i>artist</i> who is overly concerned with the lie of greatness and the devilry of my work’s reception.
</li>
<li>Favor really is deceit.
</li>
<li>As soon as you feel you are entitled to something as an artist you have already missed the generous point of your practice.
</li>
<li>Your work is no more important anyone else’s.
</li>
<li>Greatness is the worse kind of advertising: good work demands more than a slogan, more than platitudes, more than superlatives, more than favor, more, more, more—it keeps demanding and questioning&#8211;refusing hagiography, refusing memorials, refusing labels, refusing in-groups and out-groups, refusing to be done.</li>
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<p>Sincerely yours,<br />
Jonathan David Jackson</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Salchert</title>
		<link>http://www.poetryfoundation.org/harriet/2008/03/this-is-just-to-say/#comment-3030</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Salchert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 01:47:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This night I read the post on your blog; and then--after doing an
&quot;elliptical poetry&quot; search--read a related essay:
Tony Hoagland&#039;s
&quot;Fear of Narrative and the Skittery Poem of Our Moment&quot;;
and now I am going to find and read
Kenneth Golsmith&#039;s related essay.
Some days ago I read Joshua Corey&#039;s essay
and Robert Archambeau&#039;s essay.
This chase I&#039;m into is starting to get like a seminar in reverse.
Had already read most of Paul Hoover&#039;s related Norton anthology.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This night I read the post on your blog; and then&#8211;after doing an<br />
&#8220;elliptical poetry&#8221; search&#8211;read a related essay:<br />
Tony Hoagland&#8217;s<br />
&#8220;Fear of Narrative and the Skittery Poem of Our Moment&#8221;;<br />
and now I am going to find and read<br />
Kenneth Golsmith&#8217;s related essay.<br />
Some days ago I read Joshua Corey&#8217;s essay<br />
and Robert Archambeau&#8217;s essay.<br />
This chase I&#8217;m into is starting to get like a seminar in reverse.<br />
Had already read most of Paul Hoover&#8217;s related Norton anthology.</p>
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		<title>By: Troy Camplin, Ph.D.</title>
		<link>http://www.poetryfoundation.org/harriet/2008/03/this-is-just-to-say/#comment-3029</link>
		<dc:creator>Troy Camplin, Ph.D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 01:16:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There was already a post-avant garde movement, known as the derriere garde.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was already a post-avant garde movement, known as the derriere garde.</p>
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