Comments on: Conceptual Poetics: A Practicum http://www.poetryfoundation.org/harriet/2008/06/conceptual-poetics-a-practicum/ Thu, 12 Jan 2012 08:40:04 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Jean Marie http://www.poetryfoundation.org/harriet/2008/06/conceptual-poetics-a-practicum/#comment-10600 Jean Marie Sun, 03 May 2009 13:52:31 +0000 http://pf/harriet/?p=891#comment-10600 I am new to this site, delightfully devouring much of what is here. :) My own rediscovery of myself led me to write a poem titled Still Waters...that describes a desire for stillness, while knowing I have to get up, get up and do something. I gather from the date of your post and corresponding comments, that you have found your boredom has passed. Congratulations! The one word stuck out for me was: boredom restless quiet fear of nothingness breeding ground searching finding quiet stillness is more than ok oh, how I love to be bored! 050309942a©JeanMarie I am new to this site, delightfully devouring much of what is here. :) My own rediscovery of myself led me to write a poem titled Still Waters…that describes a desire for stillness, while knowing I have to get up, get up and do something. I gather from the date of your post and corresponding comments, that you have found your boredom has passed. Congratulations! The one word stuck out for me was:

boredom

restless quiet
fear of nothingness
breeding ground
searching
finding quiet
stillness is
more than ok

oh, how I love to be bored!
050309942a©JeanMarie
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]]> By: Doodle http://www.poetryfoundation.org/harriet/2008/06/conceptual-poetics-a-practicum/#comment-3870 Doodle Thu, 11 Sep 2008 00:19:51 +0000 http://pf/harriet/?p=891#comment-3870 "Life, friends, is boring..." sayeth St. John Berryman. You know hard work just might be boring, and yet just might result in work whose goodness is hard-earned. Is poetry for people with short attention spans? Maybe so nowadays. “Life, friends, is boring…” sayeth St. John Berryman. You know hard work just might be boring, and yet just might result in work whose goodness is hard-earned. Is poetry for people with short attention spans? Maybe so nowadays.
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]]> By: EKSwitaj http://www.poetryfoundation.org/harriet/2008/06/conceptual-poetics-a-practicum/#comment-3869 EKSwitaj Wed, 10 Sep 2008 21:43:44 +0000 http://pf/harriet/?p=891#comment-3869 Personally, I tend to believe that the only poetry that is truly and definitely bad poetry is that which it bores the poet to create-- but maybe I'm a snob. Personally, I tend to believe that the only poetry that is truly and definitely bad poetry is that which it bores the poet to create– but maybe I’m a snob.
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]]> By: Henry Gould http://www.poetryfoundation.org/harriet/2008/06/conceptual-poetics-a-practicum/#comment-3868 Henry Gould Thu, 12 Jun 2008 17:51:28 +0000 http://pf/harriet/?p=891#comment-3868 This is really nice, but I have to say it doesn't quite meet the criteria for genuine Conceptual Poetry. We at the CPC (Conceptual Poetry Consortium) have established certain guidelines for appropriate appropriation - and we have designated a number of apropos proprietary "sites" where such poppiations may legitimately take place, or, as they used to say (when machines could talk) "happen". My dog Fluffy has kindly emailed me the list of these "sites", which I will just paste in here, as soon as I get my Deluxe Titanium-Alloy 4-D Cut & Paster up & running (I borrowed Fluffy's can of WD-40 to do this - Fluffy, I promise I will get this back to you! Don't bark right now! I'm appropriating! Outside!) OK, here are the "sites" : Holiday Inn, Tahoma CA Marriott Inn, Phoenix AZ 4 Seasons, Denver CO 2 Seasons, Kuala Lumpur Malaysia Marriott Inn @ Hasta Lumbago Resort, Puerto Vallarta Mexico Holiday Inn, San Diego CA 4 Seasons, Duluth MN (wait - I mean 2 Seasons, Duluth MN) As you will note as you peruse this brief note, these "sites" do not include the approved "times" when your potential pre-conceived in-embryo Concept Art may take place. This is because the exact dates & times of the Conceptual Art Consortium Approved Conference Events have not yet been determined (pending funding, funding pending). So as you plan your next Conceptual Art piece, please keep in mind that official approval of your project will depend on appropriate "siting", based of course on pending funding pending; and so as you prepare your Concepts for Art, please keep this in mind - if there' still room in your "mind". This is really nice, but I have to say it doesn’t quite meet the criteria for genuine Conceptual Poetry. We at the CPC (Conceptual Poetry Consortium) have established certain guidelines for appropriate appropriation – and we have designated a number of apropos proprietary “sites” where such poppiations may legitimately take place, or, as they used to say (when machines could talk) “happen”.
My dog Fluffy has kindly emailed me the list of these “sites”, which I will just paste in here, as soon as I get my Deluxe Titanium-Alloy 4-D Cut & Paster up & running (I borrowed Fluffy’s can of WD-40 to do this – Fluffy, I promise I will get this back to you! Don’t bark right now! I’m appropriating! Outside!)
OK, here are the “sites” :
Holiday Inn, Tahoma CA
Marriott Inn, Phoenix AZ
4 Seasons, Denver CO
2 Seasons, Kuala Lumpur Malaysia
Marriott Inn @ Hasta Lumbago Resort, Puerto Vallarta Mexico
Holiday Inn, San Diego CA
4 Seasons, Duluth MN (wait – I mean 2 Seasons, Duluth MN)
As you will note as you peruse this brief note, these “sites” do not include the approved “times” when your potential pre-conceived in-embryo Concept Art may take place. This is because the exact dates & times of the Conceptual Art Consortium Approved Conference Events have not yet been determined (pending funding, funding pending).
So as you plan your next Conceptual Art piece, please keep in mind that official approval of your project will depend on appropriate “siting”, based of course on pending funding pending; and so as you prepare your Concepts for Art, please keep this in mind – if there’ still room in your “mind”.
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]]> By: Mary Meriam http://www.poetryfoundation.org/harriet/2008/06/conceptual-poetics-a-practicum/#comment-3867 Mary Meriam Thu, 12 Jun 2008 14:57:40 +0000 http://pf/harriet/?p=891#comment-3867 Collage, or mosaic. I like this "thing" too. It reminds me of a high school art assignment I had: make art. But I was lazy, so here's what I did. I found an old board, spread glue on it, and placed a glass jar on it. Then I threw a cinder block out a second-story window onto the board and glass. Voila - mosaic. The concept was? Laziness. Collage, or mosaic. I like this “thing” too. It reminds me of a high school art assignment I had: make art. But I was lazy, so here’s what I did. I found an old board, spread glue on it, and placed a glass jar on it. Then I threw a cinder block out a second-story window onto the board and glass. Voila – mosaic. The concept was? Laziness.
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]]> By: Steven Waling http://www.poetryfoundation.org/harriet/2008/06/conceptual-poetics-a-practicum/#comment-3866 Steven Waling Thu, 12 Jun 2008 08:35:37 +0000 http://pf/harriet/?p=891#comment-3866 I actually rather like it, and actually, I've made poems by wandering round shopping arcades, raiding newspaper adverts and assembling lines taken from a horoscope. I didn't know it was called "conceptual poetry", though. I always thought it was the grand old tradtition of "collage..." I actually rather like it, and actually, I’ve made poems by wandering round shopping arcades, raiding newspaper adverts and assembling lines taken from a horoscope.
I didn’t know it was called “conceptual poetry”, though. I always thought it was the grand old tradtition of “collage…”
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]]> By: Don Share http://www.poetryfoundation.org/harriet/2008/06/conceptual-poetics-a-practicum/#comment-3865 Don Share Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:40:32 +0000 http://pf/harriet/?p=891#comment-3865 By coinkydink, maybe? <a href="http://dbqp.blogspot.com/2008/06/textual-imagination-in-albany.html" rel="nofollow">Geof Huth's "Textual Imagination in Albany."</a> By coinkydink, maybe?
Geof Huth’s “Textual Imagination in Albany.”
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]]> By: Jonathan David Jackson http://www.poetryfoundation.org/harriet/2008/06/conceptual-poetics-a-practicum/#comment-3864 Jonathan David Jackson Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:15:59 +0000 http://pf/harriet/?p=891#comment-3864 Lawd Hamercy! Kelly Clarkson! Eddie Murphy! Lawd Hamercy!
Kelly Clarkson!
Eddie Murphy!
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]]> By: Tom http://www.poetryfoundation.org/harriet/2008/06/conceptual-poetics-a-practicum/#comment-3863 Tom Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:13:00 +0000 http://pf/harriet/?p=891#comment-3863 I think we're ready for the post-conceptual now. It will no doubt involve appropriating other people's appropriations. And, of course, it will have to be effable. I think we’re ready for the post-conceptual now. It will no doubt involve appropriating other people’s appropriations.
And, of course, it will have to be effable.
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]]> By: howard junker http://www.poetryfoundation.org/harriet/2008/06/conceptual-poetics-a-practicum/#comment-3862 howard junker Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:44:20 +0000 http://pf/harriet/?p=891#comment-3862 i know concrete poetry when i see it. and it's not carved in stone. i know concrete poetry when i see it. and it’s not carved in stone.
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]]> By: Oliver de la Paz http://www.poetryfoundation.org/harriet/2008/06/conceptual-poetics-a-practicum/#comment-3861 Oliver de la Paz Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:58:23 +0000 http://pf/harriet/?p=891#comment-3861 This made me smile. A lot. Thanks for this, D.A.! --Oliver This made me smile. A lot. Thanks for this, D.A.!
–Oliver
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]]> By: C. Dale http://www.poetryfoundation.org/harriet/2008/06/conceptual-poetics-a-practicum/#comment-3860 C. Dale Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:08:44 +0000 http://pf/harriet/?p=891#comment-3860 Hilarious. I love this post. Hilarious. I love this post.
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]]> By: Doodle http://www.poetryfoundation.org/harriet/2008/06/conceptual-poetics-a-practicum/#comment-3859 Doodle Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:03:17 +0000 http://pf/harriet/?p=891#comment-3859 I think K.G. ought now to try his hand at memoir - conceptual techniques are arguably what artists like James Frey engage in. Or better yet: journalism. I think K.G. ought now to try his hand at memoir – conceptual techniques are arguably what artists like James Frey engage in. Or better yet: journalism.
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]]> By: D. A. Powell http://www.poetryfoundation.org/harriet/2008/06/conceptual-poetics-a-practicum/#comment-3858 D. A. Powell Wed, 11 Jun 2008 05:30:18 +0000 http://pf/harriet/?p=891#comment-3858 Dear Kenny, Real poetry, schmeal poetry. To quote the great Billy Joel, "don't go changing to try and please me." I really do like you just the way you are. Dear Kenny,
Real poetry, schmeal poetry. To quote the great Billy Joel, “don’t go changing to try and please me.” I really do like you just the way you are.
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]]> By: Kenneth Goldsmith http://www.poetryfoundation.org/harriet/2008/06/conceptual-poetics-a-practicum/#comment-3857 Kenneth Goldsmith Wed, 11 Jun 2008 03:16:09 +0000 http://pf/harriet/?p=891#comment-3857 Excellent job, Mr. Powell! Now, does this mean I have to try my hand at <b>real</b> poetry? Along the lines of your piece, check out the Dieku's (haikus constructed entirely from the words on tombstones, photographically): <a href="http://poetryfoundation.org/harriet/2007/06/dieku_1.html" rel="nofollow">http://poetryfoundation.org/harriet/2007/06/dieku_1.html</a> Yer pal, Kenny G Excellent job, Mr. Powell! Now, does this mean I have to try my hand at real poetry?
Along the lines of your piece, check out the Dieku’s (haikus constructed entirely from the words on tombstones, photographically):
http://poetryfoundation.org/harriet/2007/06/dieku_1.html
Yer pal,
Kenny G
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]]> By: Joseph Hutchison http://www.poetryfoundation.org/harriet/2008/06/conceptual-poetics-a-practicum/#comment-3856 Joseph Hutchison Wed, 11 Jun 2008 01:33:24 +0000 http://pf/harriet/?p=891#comment-3856 Very funny! I only wish the "Obey" shot sported an image of Ken Goldsmith or Charles Bernstein instead of Uncle Sam.... Very funny! I only wish the “Obey” shot sported an image of Ken Goldsmith or Charles Bernstein instead of Uncle Sam….
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]]> By: ashley http://www.poetryfoundation.org/harriet/2008/06/conceptual-poetics-a-practicum/#comment-3855 ashley Wed, 11 Jun 2008 01:29:42 +0000 http://pf/harriet/?p=891#comment-3855 Dear Doug, This is why I was happy to see you had joined Harriet. Well, one of the reasons anyway. I took a crowded seminar with you once where you were a visiting instructor, and these years later some of your bemused observations--one about metaphor in particular--there's something in your tone--will still creep into my head and make me burst out laughing if I think about them. This post cracked me up. Thanks for the levity. Dear Doug,
This is why I was happy to see you had joined Harriet. Well, one of the reasons anyway. I took a crowded seminar with you once where you were a visiting instructor, and these years later some of your bemused observations–one about metaphor in particular–there’s something in your tone–will still creep into my head and make me burst out laughing if I think about them. This post cracked me up. Thanks for the levity.
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]]> By: Travis Nichols http://www.poetryfoundation.org/harriet/2008/06/conceptual-poetics-a-practicum/#comment-3854 Travis Nichols Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:43:59 +0000 http://pf/harriet/?p=891#comment-3854 I'm very happy about this. I’m very happy about this.
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]]> By: Mary Meriam http://www.poetryfoundation.org/harriet/2008/06/conceptual-poetics-a-practicum/#comment-3853 Mary Meriam Tue, 10 Jun 2008 23:51:54 +0000 http://pf/harriet/?p=891#comment-3853 I particularly enjoyed the preamble of this fine concrete poem. The sense of place is strong. Reptition, rhyme, and sidewalk construction all combine in a felicitous harmony that suggests walking. Random stains, and withered leaves, made me weep with the poignancy of life and death. But the lone ciggy butt is the most complex of this poem’s many ineffable moments. I will call the number provided to voice my approval. I particularly enjoyed the preamble of this fine concrete poem. The sense of place is strong. Reptition, rhyme, and sidewalk construction all combine in a felicitous harmony that suggests walking. Random stains, and withered leaves, made me weep with the poignancy of life and death. But the lone ciggy butt is the most complex of this poem’s many ineffable moments. I will call the number provided to voice my approval.
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