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		<title>By: Sam Kuraishi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Kuraishi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 03:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>J.R was one of the thousands of the Vietnam war activists. Most of them have convictions and were rejected or ignored by the media. But J.R. knew how to reach the media. His rise to celebrity status
was limelighted by the media, But his downfall, as others see it or interpret it , war his own choice.
But ...........
Ease off and bear the blame,
because nothing stays the same.
The past will be forgotten,
and the future can be so rotten.
The week will sink
under the burden of power.
The victor will toss his drink
on top of his ivory tower.
Two legged, horses and mules,
must obey the victor&#039;s rules.
The tyrant will decide,
who must go for the ride.
On that demand,
the were led to the promise land.
With the villains over their back,
the creatures tumbled over their back
A shepherd who takes the sheep
into the wrong direction,
might ends up in a field
of hopelessness and destruction.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>J.R was one of the thousands of the Vietnam war activists. Most of them have convictions and were rejected or ignored by the media. But J.R. knew how to reach the media. His rise to celebrity status<br />
was limelighted by the media, But his downfall, as others see it or interpret it , war his own choice.<br />
But &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..<br />
Ease off and bear the blame,<br />
because nothing stays the same.<br />
The past will be forgotten,<br />
and the future can be so rotten.<br />
The week will sink<br />
under the burden of power.<br />
The victor will toss his drink<br />
on top of his ivory tower.<br />
Two legged, horses and mules,<br />
must obey the victor&#8217;s rules.<br />
The tyrant will decide,<br />
who must go for the ride.<br />
On that demand,<br />
the were led to the promise land.<br />
With the villains over their back,<br />
the creatures tumbled over their back<br />
A shepherd who takes the sheep<br />
into the wrong direction,<br />
might ends up in a field<br />
of hopelessness and destruction.<br /><span id="reportcomment_results_div_4342"><a href="javascript:void(0);" onclick="reportComment( 4342 );" title="Report this comment" rel="nofollow">Report this comment</a></span></p>
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		<title>By: Corey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Corey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 17:24:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since I don&#039;t know much about Rubin beyond his Chicago Seven days (beyond that fact that he became a businessman and argued that wealth creation is the real revolution) I&#039;d be interested to know why this represents a betrayal on Rubin&#039;s part.  If they were sincerely held beliefs, I don&#039;t see why a change has to be viewed as hypocritical.  His policy shift might not have been the right one (insofar as &quot;wealth creation&quot; wasn&#039;t as successful as Rubin would have believed or didn&#039;t work), but that doesn&#039;t make him hypocritical.
It&#039;s interesting that we often discount what our future selves believe or might think, when it&#039;s those future selves who have more experiences and more information.  And although I don&#039;t think Rubin had quite the same policy ideas in mind (or maybe he did), Amartya Sen&#039;s Development as Freedom argues that the idea of wealth creation isn&#039;t so crazy (for someone concerned with the welfare all people), though Sen&#039;s argument goes beyond merely arguing for creating wealth.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since I don&#8217;t know much about Rubin beyond his Chicago Seven days (beyond that fact that he became a businessman and argued that wealth creation is the real revolution) I&#8217;d be interested to know why this represents a betrayal on Rubin&#8217;s part.  If they were sincerely held beliefs, I don&#8217;t see why a change has to be viewed as hypocritical.  His policy shift might not have been the right one (insofar as &#8220;wealth creation&#8221; wasn&#8217;t as successful as Rubin would have believed or didn&#8217;t work), but that doesn&#8217;t make him hypocritical.<br />
It&#8217;s interesting that we often discount what our future selves believe or might think, when it&#8217;s those future selves who have more experiences and more information.  And although I don&#8217;t think Rubin had quite the same policy ideas in mind (or maybe he did), Amartya Sen&#8217;s Development as Freedom argues that the idea of wealth creation isn&#8217;t so crazy (for someone concerned with the welfare all people), though Sen&#8217;s argument goes beyond merely arguing for creating wealth.<br /><span id="reportcomment_results_div_4341"><a href="javascript:void(0);" onclick="reportComment( 4341 );" title="Report this comment" rel="nofollow">Report this comment</a></span></p>
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		<title>By: Lydia Olidea</title>
		<link>http://www.poetryfoundation.org/harriet/2008/07/greatest-american-hero/#comment-4340</link>
		<dc:creator>Lydia Olidea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 00:04:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>D.A.,
I agree with every word of that. I simply wished to grasp the truth of Jerry Rubin, which requires the noble and less noble parts together. And I guess my concern is not that there was a &quot;bad part&quot; along with a &quot;good part,&quot; but that the naturalizing narrative (his, not yours) of &quot;youthful idealism...&quot; as part of a conventional &lt;i&gt;bildung&lt;/i&gt; en route to the wisdom of the markets just sort of sucks.
I am not asking for anyone to be a paragon in every moment; that would be stupid, and painful, and hypocritical. But I am just hopeful enough to think that it&#039;s not &lt;i&gt;necessary&lt;/i&gt; that one&#039;s youthful radicalisms become adult cynicisms, even if it happens all the time — and thus that the project of naming such betrayals as betrayals still has some value.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>D.A.,<br />
I agree with every word of that. I simply wished to grasp the truth of Jerry Rubin, which requires the noble and less noble parts together. And I guess my concern is not that there was a &#8220;bad part&#8221; along with a &#8220;good part,&#8221; but that the naturalizing narrative (his, not yours) of &#8220;youthful idealism&#8230;&#8221; as part of a conventional <i>bildung</i> en route to the wisdom of the markets just sort of sucks.<br />
I am not asking for anyone to be a paragon in every moment; that would be stupid, and painful, and hypocritical. But I am just hopeful enough to think that it&#8217;s not <i>necessary</i> that one&#8217;s youthful radicalisms become adult cynicisms, even if it happens all the time — and thus that the project of naming such betrayals as betrayals still has some value.<br /><span id="reportcomment_results_div_4340"><a href="javascript:void(0);" onclick="reportComment( 4340 );" title="Report this comment" rel="nofollow">Report this comment</a></span></p>
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		<title>By: D. A. Powell</title>
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		<dc:creator>D. A. Powell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 21:00:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Lydia, lots of idealists eventually sell out. But one can admire a period in someone&#039;s life without having to like the whole life. Some people get better as they age (I wouldn&#039;t want to have known Senator Robert Byrd back in his KKK days) and some get worse. But to have tried to change the world for even a brief moment is an admirable thing. Most never think beyond their own myopic concerns; even fewer act through any kind of nobleness.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Lydia, lots of idealists eventually sell out. But one can admire a period in someone&#8217;s life without having to like the whole life. Some people get better as they age (I wouldn&#8217;t want to have known Senator Robert Byrd back in his KKK days) and some get worse. But to have tried to change the world for even a brief moment is an admirable thing. Most never think beyond their own myopic concerns; even fewer act through any kind of nobleness.<br /><span id="reportcomment_results_div_4339"><a href="javascript:void(0);" onclick="reportComment( 4339 );" title="Report this comment" rel="nofollow">Report this comment</a></span></p>
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		<title>By: Lydia Olidea</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lydia Olidea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 16:36:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish Jerry Rubin didn&#039;t also stand for, and underwrite the logic of, abandoning &quot;youthful idealism&quot; for the mature pragmatism of becoming a shitheel businessman who saw that community was just a practice run for corporate networking nights at Limelight, and announced that &quot;wealth creation is the real American revolution.&quot; With heroes like these...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish Jerry Rubin didn&#8217;t also stand for, and underwrite the logic of, abandoning &#8220;youthful idealism&#8221; for the mature pragmatism of becoming a shitheel businessman who saw that community was just a practice run for corporate networking nights at Limelight, and announced that &#8220;wealth creation is the real American revolution.&#8221; With heroes like these&#8230;<br /><span id="reportcomment_results_div_4338"><a href="javascript:void(0);" onclick="reportComment( 4338 );" title="Report this comment" rel="nofollow">Report this comment</a></span></p>
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		<title>By: elle</title>
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		<dc:creator>elle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 15:04:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Happy birthday, Jerry and Woody (Guthrie) wherever y&#039;all are.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Happy birthday, Jerry and Woody (Guthrie) wherever y&#8217;all are.<br /><span id="reportcomment_results_div_4337"><a href="javascript:void(0);" onclick="reportComment( 4337 );" title="Report this comment" rel="nofollow">Report this comment</a></span></p>
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