http://www.poetryfoundation.org/harriet/2008/07/laurels/ A blog from the Poetry Foundation where contemporary poets debate classic and contemporary poetry from America and around the world. Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:12:11 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 http://www.poetryfoundation.org/harriet/2008/07/laurels/#comment-4459 Matt Thu, 17 Jul 2008 17:34:40 +0000 http://pf/harriet/?p=957#comment-4459 I have nothing against Kay Ryan, I guess. But wouldn't it be nice to just once have a poet laureate who's actually, like, controversial? I mean, any reader of this blog knows that poetry is full of controversy, but you wouldn't know it based on the comfy-chair poets who keep getting chosen for the position. (I don't mean to trash all of everything each of them did, does, and will do...I like Louise Glueck. (I'm using "ue" because I don't know how to make an umlaut on a PC. Stupid PC.)) I have nothing against Kay Ryan, I guess. But wouldn’t it be nice to just once have a poet laureate who’s actually, like, controversial? I mean, any reader of this blog knows that poetry is full of controversy, but you wouldn’t know it based on the comfy-chair poets who keep getting chosen for the position. (I don’t mean to trash all of everything each of them did, does, and will do…I like Louise Glueck. (I’m using “ue” because I don’t know how to make an umlaut on a PC. Stupid PC.))

]]> http://www.poetryfoundation.org/harriet/2008/07/laurels/#comment-4458 Emily Warn Thu, 17 Jul 2008 16:48:01 +0000 http://pf/harriet/?p=957#comment-4458 Kay Ryan could be talking about Kenny G. in her recent essay on Frost when she writes: "There is a whole category of poets who are the "talking-back" poets, getting much of their energy from disagreeing or taking exception. Frost is at the top of the list. Frost always has to have this push-back he's writing against. He can argue harder; he can put all his force on one side; and he doesn't need to be fair. Plus, it's fun. We know he's talking about himself when he advises, "take an extreme position for the fun of battle." His natural rhetorical stance is dialogue, even when he's the only one talking, in which case he calls it "self-repartee" or "my part in a conversation in which the other part is more or less implied." Frost never doubts the generative potential of his own mind: "The best mind asks and answers his own questions not questions asked by others." Here's a typical bit of Frost fun: I demand to speak with God What is your business with God I couldn't explain that to anybody but God There is not God So much the better perhaps. Because that rules out half my business. If there is no God there can be no future life. The present life is all I should have to worry about." To read the rest of this essay ("I Demand to Speak with God") and several of her other essays and poems, go <a href="http://poetryfoundation.org/archive/poet.html?id=80608" rel="nofollow">here</a>. Or to listen to her on a recent podcast called "Abusing Animals in the Name of Poetry," go <a href="http://www.poetryfoundation.org/journal/audio.html?show=Poetry%20Off%20the%20Shelf" rel="nofollow">here</a>. Congratulations, Kay! Emily Kay Ryan could be talking about Kenny G. in her recent essay on Frost when she writes:
“There is a whole category of poets who are the “talking-back” poets, getting much of their energy from disagreeing or taking exception. Frost is at the top of the list. Frost always has to have this push-back he’s writing against. He can argue harder; he can put all his force on one side; and he doesn’t need to be fair. Plus, it’s fun. We know he’s talking about himself when he advises, “take an extreme position for the fun of battle.” His natural rhetorical stance is dialogue, even when he’s the only one talking, in which case he calls it “self-repartee” or “my part in a conversation in which the other part is more or less implied.” Frost never doubts the generative potential of his own mind: “The best mind asks and answers his own questions not questions asked by others.” Here’s a typical bit of Frost fun:
I demand to speak with God
What is your business with God
I couldn’t explain that to anybody but God
There is not God
So much the better perhaps. Because that rules out half my business. If there is no God there can be no future life. The present life is all I should have to worry about.”
To read the rest of this essay (”I Demand to Speak with God”) and several of her other essays and poems, go here. Or to listen to her on a recent podcast called “Abusing Animals in the Name of Poetry,” go here.
Congratulations, Kay!
Emily

]]> http://www.poetryfoundation.org/harriet/2008/07/laurels/#comment-4457 Kenneth Goldsmith Thu, 17 Jul 2008 01:27:33 +0000 http://pf/harriet/?p=957#comment-4457 Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss. Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss.

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