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]]> By: Kevin Connolly http://www.poetryfoundation.org/harriet/2008/10/3785-page-pirated-poetry-anthology/#comment-11391 Kevin Connolly Sat, 16 May 2009 19:50:54 +0000 http://pf/harriet/?p=1090#comment-11391 Didn't piss me off in the least. It's flattering, if anything. It's a piece of conceptual art, and ahead of the curve, given the recent Googlebooks wholesale rip-off. The sheer volume of poets included also makes a point in a field where the unique individual voice is supposed to be primary. If you think of it the right way, it's the opposite of theft: we're being given a free poem (whether we like it or not, granted). I don't see what the fuss is about. Didn’t piss me off in the least. It’s flattering, if anything. It’s a piece of conceptual art, and ahead of the curve, given the recent Googlebooks wholesale rip-off. The sheer volume of poets included also makes a point in a field where the unique individual voice is supposed to be primary. If you think of it the right way, it’s the opposite of theft: we’re being given a free poem (whether we like it or not, granted).

I don’t see what the fuss is about.
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]]> By: Denise Low http://www.poetryfoundation.org/harriet/2008/10/3785-page-pirated-poetry-anthology/#comment-5697 Denise Low Sat, 31 Jan 2009 16:56:43 +0000 http://pf/harriet/?p=1090#comment-5697 This is audacious. Has this lasted past a microsecond in Oct. 2008? This is audacious. Has this lasted past a microsecond in Oct. 2008?
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]]> By: Frankk Simone http://www.poetryfoundation.org/harriet/2008/10/3785-page-pirated-poetry-anthology/#comment-5696 Frankk Simone Sat, 17 Jan 2009 14:40:39 +0000 http://pf/harriet/?p=1090#comment-5696 Well gee, your using my name attached to nothing (or I can't find it) Okay I have spent my whole life as such, So here's my poem to make, make even less sense. I stole it from myself Trinity As I walked along I looked across into the cemetery, to see two young mated hawks, a kin to eagles light upon the limbs their white underlining matches the virgin snow that Falls leaves behind the graves of those who have come to rest upon the souls save the vein each a barren branch whose darkness looks beneath heaven for gravity is a mortal belonging to the heart which remains but a stone eternity bearing the names of those who have forsaken divine provenance for all their Earthly possessions instead of the love which gave them life now gives them only bones discarded by the birds of prey for who have departed *for “…Who appointeth the clouds for His ascent, Who walketh upon the wings of the wind, Who maketh his Angels spirits, and His ministers a flame of fire…” As for me I am humbled by this vision, for I know my days are like grass, **“…as a flower of the field, so blossom forth. For when the wind is passed over it, then shall be gone, and no longer will it know the place thereof…” For I know my life to be as filled with the mercy of my Lord who is forever, there I shall go too, leaving behind the prints of my sole to melt and vanish in the warmth of the Son. Frank Simone 12 / 23/ 08 * psalm 103 / **102 Well gee, your using my name attached to nothing (or I can’t find it) Okay I have spent my whole life as such, So here’s my poem to make, make even less sense. I stole it from myself
Trinity
As I walked along I looked
across into the cemetery,
to see two young mated hawks,
a kin to eagles
light
upon the limbs
their white underlining
matches the virgin
snow that
Falls
leaves
behind the graves
of those who have come to rest
upon the souls
save
the vein
each a barren branch
whose darkness looks beneath
heaven
for gravity
is a mortal belonging
to the heart
which remains but a stone eternity
bearing the names
of those who have forsaken
divine provenance
for all their Earthly possessions
instead of the love
which gave them life
now gives them only bones
discarded by the birds of
prey
for who have departed
*for
“…Who appointeth the clouds for His ascent,
Who walketh upon the wings of the wind,
Who maketh his Angels spirits, and
His ministers
a flame of fire…”
As for me I am humbled by this vision,
for I know my days are like grass,
**“…as a flower of the field, so blossom forth.
For when the wind is passed over it, then shall be gone,
and no longer will it know the place thereof…”
For I know my life to be as
filled with the mercy
of my Lord who is forever,
there I shall go too,
leaving behind the prints
of my sole to melt and vanish
in the warmth of the Son.
Frank Simone 12 / 23/ 08
* psalm 103 / **102
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]]> By: Patrick Culliton http://www.poetryfoundation.org/harriet/2008/10/3785-page-pirated-poetry-anthology/#comment-5695 Patrick Culliton Thu, 30 Oct 2008 19:41:12 +0000 http://pf/harriet/?p=1090#comment-5695 This is fantastic and proof vanity Googling is the berries. This is fantastic and proof vanity Googling is the berries.
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]]> By: Brian Salchert http://www.poetryfoundation.org/harriet/2008/10/3785-page-pirated-poetry-anthology/#comment-5694 Brian Salchert Thu, 23 Oct 2008 00:49:52 +0000 http://pf/harriet/?p=1090#comment-5694 It's a little late for this, but: the piece to which my name is assigned appears on page 2244 and I would like to know if that page was chosen by a human, by the program used for the word objects, or if it was just a random event. Thank you. It’s a little late for this, but:
the piece to which my name is assigned
appears on page 2244
and I would like to know if
that page was chosen by a human,
by the program used for the word objects,
or if it was just a random event.
Thank you.
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]]> By: Lauren Dixon http://www.poetryfoundation.org/harriet/2008/10/3785-page-pirated-poetry-anthology/#comment-5693 Lauren Dixon Wed, 15 Oct 2008 16:12:23 +0000 http://pf/harriet/?p=1090#comment-5693 Well, this is probably the first and only time I'll ever find myself mentioned on the Poetry Foundation website! Beyond that, I am left to believe a computer a writer does not make. An algorithm does not an identity displace. I won't laud the 'editors' of this thick binary invention, but I won't attempt to boil their flesh, either. I like the idea, but the execution? I have enough ego to say nay. They are clearly bigger fans of Burroughs than I. Well, this is probably the first and only time I’ll ever find myself mentioned on the Poetry Foundation website! Beyond that, I am left to believe a computer a writer does not make. An algorithm does not an identity displace. I won’t laud the ‘editors’ of this thick binary invention, but I won’t attempt to boil their flesh, either. I like the idea, but the execution? I have enough ego to say nay. They are clearly bigger fans of Burroughs than I.
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]]> By: David Michael Wolach http://www.poetryfoundation.org/harriet/2008/10/3785-page-pirated-poetry-anthology/#comment-5692 David Michael Wolach Tue, 14 Oct 2008 18:32:02 +0000 http://pf/harriet/?p=1090#comment-5692 Hey, wait a minute. I just tried to dowload the collection I wrote, and it appears that due to the heat of a few individuals mistaking their work for mine and threatening suit, I didn't get the chance to read what I'd just written and published. Damn thing was taken down. Countersuit: Will anyone join me in suing said individuals for the digital rights to my own name? I know I put it there right at the top, under "author." And now poof! They took it from me. I would simply like what is rightfully mine. I can't go around like this. Nobody knows what to shout now when they pass by. I was in a faculty meeting this morning and voted on a proposal for softer lounge chairs, had to file my ballot under "John Doe." Important election is coming up. Now what? And whoever that David Buuck guy is (supposing that's his real name), I could not have said it better: a para-anthology. To make an addition I'm sure he wouldn't disagree with: the transitory decor of the para-anthology makes it impossible to turn the page, let alone read left to right or up to down, & etc. There is something para-talmudic about its framentary hyperstructure. I think that's neat. That's why I'm editing it. And, to politely disagree with Angela G. (aka Tao Lin), my collection, were it actually written by all these wannabes, should most certainly be considered a detournement (but not a "radical" one - as that would just be redundant). Perhaps you dislike my poems, but then why desire credit for them (don't forget - Debord made some bad movies, and his precursor, Hugo Ball, culdn't even spell)? And if one decrees credit, or ownership, then why help me construct Issue 2, the Para-Anthology? Slavoj and I are really tight, like, we watch the OC together & shit., but one can levee the claim of armchair activism against him too. Oh, and he stole the notion of fantasy transgression from FN - "imaginary revenge." F Y I. Kent Johnson Hey, wait a minute. I just tried to dowload the collection I wrote, and it appears that due to the heat of a few individuals mistaking their work for mine and threatening suit, I didn’t get the chance to read what I’d just written and published. Damn thing was taken down.
Countersuit: Will anyone join me in suing said individuals for the digital rights to my own name? I know I put it there right at the top, under “author.” And now poof! They took it from me. I would simply like what is rightfully mine. I can’t go around like this. Nobody knows what to shout now when they pass by. I was in a faculty meeting this morning and voted on a proposal for softer lounge chairs, had to file my ballot under “John Doe.” Important election is coming up. Now what?
And whoever that David Buuck guy is (supposing that’s his real name), I could not have said it better: a para-anthology. To make an addition I’m sure he wouldn’t disagree with: the transitory decor of the para-anthology makes it impossible to turn the page, let alone read left to right or up to down, & etc. There is something para-talmudic about its framentary hyperstructure. I think that’s neat. That’s why I’m editing it. And, to politely disagree with Angela G. (aka Tao Lin), my collection, were it actually written by all these wannabes, should most certainly be considered a detournement (but not a “radical” one – as that would just be redundant). Perhaps you dislike my poems, but then why desire credit for them (don’t forget – Debord made some bad movies, and his precursor, Hugo Ball, culdn’t even spell)? And if one decrees credit, or ownership, then why help me construct Issue 2, the Para-Anthology? Slavoj and I are really tight, like, we watch the OC together & shit., but one can levee the claim of armchair activism against him too. Oh, and he stole the notion of fantasy transgression from FN – “imaginary revenge.” F Y I.
Kent Johnson
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]]> By: kouji http://www.poetryfoundation.org/harriet/2008/10/3785-page-pirated-poetry-anthology/#comment-5691 kouji Tue, 14 Oct 2008 07:26:26 +0000 http://pf/harriet/?p=1090#comment-5691 hmmm... 123 comments... it appears to be interesting linkbait as well... hmmm… 123 comments… it appears to be interesting linkbait as well…
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]]> By: David Michael Wolach http://www.poetryfoundation.org/harriet/2008/10/3785-page-pirated-poetry-anthology/#comment-5690 David Michael Wolach Mon, 13 Oct 2008 23:35:08 +0000 http://pf/harriet/?p=1090#comment-5690 Tao, How dare you take credit for 3,000+ poems that I just found out I wrote? I hope we can settle this out of court. Perhaps over lunch. Or through my agent. Over lunch. Or via lunch? What do you eat? Do you eat over agent? Anyway, thanks to all of you for your contributions. Especially me. And me. And to Tao: it's either a dunning letter or some food. Your choice. Solidarity, David Michael Wolach aka, Kent Johnson Tao,
How dare you take credit for 3,000+ poems that I just found out I wrote? I hope we can settle this out of court. Perhaps over lunch. Or through my agent. Over lunch. Or via lunch? What do you eat? Do you eat over agent?
Anyway, thanks to all of you for your contributions. Especially me. And me. And to Tao: it’s either a dunning letter or some food. Your choice.
Solidarity,
David Michael Wolach
aka, Kent Johnson
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]]> By: Juliet Wilson http://www.poetryfoundation.org/harriet/2008/10/3785-page-pirated-poetry-anthology/#comment-5689 Juliet Wilson Mon, 13 Oct 2008 18:49:07 +0000 http://pf/harriet/?p=1090#comment-5689 When i first read about this project i didn't even check whether i was in it. Since googling myself and finding out i am in it I'm sort of flattered. I didn't write the poem that's attributed to me, but I'm sort of tempted to post it to my blog - look what someone else wrote for me? Its all very weird, amusing and fascinating When i first read about this project i didn’t even check whether i was in it. Since googling myself and finding out i am in it I’m sort of flattered. I didn’t write the poem that’s attributed to me, but I’m sort of tempted to post it to my blog – look what someone else wrote for me? Its all very weird, amusing and fascinating
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]]> By: Hillary Lyon http://www.poetryfoundation.org/harriet/2008/10/3785-page-pirated-poetry-anthology/#comment-5688 Hillary Lyon Mon, 13 Oct 2008 15:40:52 +0000 http://pf/harriet/?p=1090#comment-5688 Hmmm. I'm included (which was a surprise) for a poem I didn't write (more surprising). Kinda liked the poem, though. Kinda, though it's definitely not my style. Noticed you did attribute to established, academic poets like Albert Goldbarth, Jack Myers, and Lyn Lifshin. Perhaps you're afraid they have the where-withal to shut you down? Go pick on poets your own size. Please don't do this again. Thanks. Hmmm.
I’m included (which was a surprise) for a poem I didn’t write (more surprising).
Kinda liked the poem, though. Kinda, though it’s definitely not my style.
Noticed you did attribute to established, academic poets like Albert Goldbarth, Jack Myers, and Lyn Lifshin. Perhaps you’re afraid they have the where-withal to shut you down?
Go pick on poets your own size.
Please don’t do this again.
Thanks.
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]]> By: pedro knust http://www.poetryfoundation.org/harriet/2008/10/3785-page-pirated-poetry-anthology/#comment-5687 pedro knust Sat, 11 Oct 2008 11:38:22 +0000 http://pf/harriet/?p=1090#comment-5687 i want to read the poem this head of mine is tired by sedar senghor and also get the analysis of the poem i want to read the poem this head of mine is tired by sedar senghor and also get the analysis of the poem
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]]> By: Francesca http://www.poetryfoundation.org/harriet/2008/10/3785-page-pirated-poetry-anthology/#comment-5686 Francesca Fri, 10 Oct 2008 20:46:23 +0000 http://pf/harriet/?p=1090#comment-5686 I just wanted to say, I love it. Via someone else's genius I have attained what I have always wanted - my name absorbed into the impersonality of word as function, reduced to letters as the intimate strands of poetic imagery must themselves be. What author doesn't write to fuse with the form? And yet so many here have bristled at the stealing of 'their' name. Whoever masterminded this, the Situationists would be kissing your feet if they were alive/ cared about poetry. I just wanted to say, I love it. Via someone else’s genius I have attained what I have always wanted – my name absorbed into the impersonality of word as function, reduced to letters as the intimate strands of poetic imagery must themselves be. What author doesn’t write to fuse with the form? And yet so many here have bristled at the stealing of ‘their’ name. Whoever masterminded this, the Situationists would be kissing your feet if they were alive/ cared about poetry.
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]]> By: Afua http://www.poetryfoundation.org/harriet/2008/10/3785-page-pirated-poetry-anthology/#comment-5685 Afua Fri, 10 Oct 2008 18:22:02 +0000 http://pf/harriet/?p=1090#comment-5685 This is the wildest thing I have ever seen. As a struggling artist it would be nice to be able to decide where your work is posted but the wildest thing about this odd little PDF is that my name is attached to a poem I didn't write. A very nice poem but not one I wrote. This is the wildest thing I have ever seen. As a struggling artist it would be nice to be able to decide where your work is posted but the wildest thing about this odd little PDF is that my name is attached to a poem I didn’t write. A very nice poem but not one I wrote.
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]]> By: Doodle http://www.poetryfoundation.org/harriet/2008/10/3785-page-pirated-poetry-anthology/#comment-5684 Doodle Thu, 09 Oct 2008 14:48:47 +0000 http://pf/harriet/?p=1090#comment-5684 <a href="http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/Zero-Dollar-Bill/ss/events/bs/100808zerodollargilb" rel="nofollow">More fake (read "clever") art!</a> More fake (read “clever”) art!
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]]> By: Renee Turner http://www.poetryfoundation.org/harriet/2008/10/3785-page-pirated-poetry-anthology/#comment-5683 Renee Turner Wed, 08 Oct 2008 13:37:04 +0000 http://pf/harriet/?p=1090#comment-5683 Great project... But it could be good to bring in some non-poetic feeds/alerts...just to get a little cross-contamination going. Who knows what poetry that might liberate.... Great project… But it could be good to bring in some non-poetic feeds/alerts…just to get a little cross-contamination going. Who knows what poetry that might liberate….
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]]> By: Sam Byfield http://www.poetryfoundation.org/harriet/2008/10/3785-page-pirated-poetry-anthology/#comment-5682 Sam Byfield Wed, 08 Oct 2008 10:07:40 +0000 http://pf/harriet/?p=1090#comment-5682 Ironically, I didn't know about google alerts before reading about all this. And it's certainly not very often that a bunch of people like everyone above would have been drawn into discusion about a common topic. I'm interested to what extent the poems attributed to people drew upon certain keywords- mine contained 'kingdom' which is a word that appears in many of my bios online, though it could be a fluke. I'm really not worried about it- it highlights in an amusing way just how obsessed with their own name many poets are (though no more so than, say, politicians). And besides, as google tells me there's a famous Sam Byfield who plays football in England, and it might have been him who wrote the poem. Ironically, I didn’t know about google alerts before reading about all this. And it’s certainly not very often that a bunch of people like everyone above would have been drawn into discusion about a common topic.
I’m interested to what extent the poems attributed to people drew upon certain keywords- mine contained ‘kingdom’ which is a word that appears in many of my bios online, though it could be a fluke.
I’m really not worried about it- it highlights in an amusing way just how obsessed with their own name many poets are (though no more so than, say, politicians). And besides, as google tells me there’s a famous Sam Byfield who plays football in England, and it might have been him who wrote the poem.
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]]> By: stephen kirbach http://www.poetryfoundation.org/harriet/2008/10/3785-page-pirated-poetry-anthology/#comment-5681 stephen kirbach Wed, 08 Oct 2008 08:35:55 +0000 http://pf/harriet/?p=1090#comment-5681 this is funny & funnier yet that people even care about personal rep - ah, the wonders of narcissism and 'print'... this is funny & funnier yet that people even care about personal rep -
ah, the wonders of narcissism and ‘print’…
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]]> By: Jane_says http://www.poetryfoundation.org/harriet/2008/10/3785-page-pirated-poetry-anthology/#comment-5680 Jane_says Tue, 07 Oct 2008 14:51:27 +0000 http://pf/harriet/?p=1090#comment-5680 Is this the YouTube of poetry? Is this the YouTube of poetry?
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]]> By: Derek Catermole http://www.poetryfoundation.org/harriet/2008/10/3785-page-pirated-poetry-anthology/#comment-5679 Derek Catermole Tue, 07 Oct 2008 14:16:37 +0000 http://pf/harriet/?p=1090#comment-5679 Many or most of the writers in this anthology have never composed a better poem. Ironic that the only thing preventing so many poets from becoming good poets has been their own creative impulses. Many or most of the writers in this anthology have never composed a better poem. Ironic that the only thing preventing so many poets from becoming good poets has been their own creative impulses.
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]]> By: Sarah Sarai http://www.poetryfoundation.org/harriet/2008/10/3785-page-pirated-poetry-anthology/#comment-5678 Sarah Sarai Tue, 07 Oct 2008 14:13:18 +0000 http://pf/harriet/?p=1090#comment-5678 Bukowski and Beatrix Potter in the same anthology. Whoohoo! Dear Bogus & Inclusive Editors: You are free to link to me at <a href="http://www.myspace.com/sarahsarai" rel="nofollow">http://www.myspace.com/sarahsarai</a> . I'm an American. Fame is good fame is good fame is good. Most surprises lately have been horrifying (the markets, Palin). This one's a hoot. Bukowski and Beatrix Potter in the same anthology. Whoohoo!
Dear Bogus & Inclusive Editors: You are free to link to me at http://www.myspace.com/sarahsarai . I’m an American. Fame is good fame is good fame is good.
Most surprises lately have been horrifying (the markets, Palin).
This one’s a hoot.
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]]> By: Mike Topp http://www.poetryfoundation.org/harriet/2008/10/3785-page-pirated-poetry-anthology/#comment-5677 Mike Topp Tue, 07 Oct 2008 12:45:27 +0000 http://pf/harriet/?p=1090#comment-5677 All is vanity. Very amusing. All is vanity. Very amusing.
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]]> By: John http://www.poetryfoundation.org/harriet/2008/10/3785-page-pirated-poetry-anthology/#comment-5676 John Mon, 06 Oct 2008 18:38:41 +0000 http://pf/harriet/?p=1090#comment-5676 I wish the extremists in this thread would calm down a bit. Hating on this project, and going to the lengths of even typing "lawsuit," is the equivalent of waving a flag that says, "Never read my poetry, ever again." I wish the extremists in this thread would calm down a bit. Hating on this project, and going to the lengths of even typing “lawsuit,” is the equivalent of waving a flag that says, “Never read my poetry, ever again.”
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]]> By: Dana http://www.poetryfoundation.org/harriet/2008/10/3785-page-pirated-poetry-anthology/#comment-5675 Dana Mon, 06 Oct 2008 18:02:03 +0000 http://pf/harriet/?p=1090#comment-5675 I love that Tao Lin thinks it's funny and approves of it. Tao Lin is so cool. I love that Tao Lin thinks it’s funny and approves of it. Tao Lin is so cool.
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]]> By: Daniel Nester http://www.poetryfoundation.org/harriet/2008/10/3785-page-pirated-poetry-anthology/#comment-5674 Daniel Nester Mon, 06 Oct 2008 17:38:35 +0000 http://pf/harriet/?p=1090#comment-5674 I still think it's funny to refer to a poetry community. I still think it’s funny to refer to a poetry community.
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]]> By: John Bloomberg-Rissman http://www.poetryfoundation.org/harriet/2008/10/3785-page-pirated-poetry-anthology/#comment-5673 John Bloomberg-Rissman Mon, 06 Oct 2008 14:12:01 +0000 http://pf/harriet/?p=1090#comment-5673 I am as proud of my contribution to this anthology as I am of any work my "I" thinks it wrote. and "I" hereby claim this poems til the end of time. And after ... I am as proud of my contribution to this anthology as I am of any work my “I” thinks it wrote. and “I” hereby claim this poems til the end of time. And after …
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]]> By: Matt http://www.poetryfoundation.org/harriet/2008/10/3785-page-pirated-poetry-anthology/#comment-5672 Matt Mon, 06 Oct 2008 13:42:09 +0000 http://pf/harriet/?p=1090#comment-5672 I <i>wish</i> it came from Penn State, a Big Ten school. Alas, it is actually the University of Pennsylvania, of the inferior Ivy League ;) I wish it came from Penn State, a Big Ten school. Alas, it is actually the University of Pennsylvania, of the inferior Ivy League ;)
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]]> By: Graeme Fuller http://www.poetryfoundation.org/harriet/2008/10/3785-page-pirated-poetry-anthology/#comment-5671 Graeme Fuller Mon, 06 Oct 2008 12:23:08 +0000 http://pf/harriet/?p=1090#comment-5671 My vomit is more disappointed now than before it came out. My vomit is more disappointed now than before it came out.
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]]> By: Susana http://www.poetryfoundation.org/harriet/2008/10/3785-page-pirated-poetry-anthology/#comment-5670 Susana Mon, 06 Oct 2008 09:42:33 +0000 http://pf/harriet/?p=1090#comment-5670 It seems some are thinking Kenny agrees with the haters, I can't imagine he does. In fact I thought of him first when I opened the pdf file. Did people actually submit to this? Was there some sort of standard process which was part of the bluff? And Sina, how did an actual poem get in there? Someone pointed to a penn state program which generated the poetry, I'll post it here if I find it... It seems some are thinking Kenny agrees with the haters, I can’t imagine he does. In fact I thought of him first when I opened the pdf file. Did people actually submit to this? Was there some sort of standard process which was part of the bluff? And Sina, how did an actual poem get in there? Someone pointed to a penn state program which generated the poetry, I’ll post it here if I find it…
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