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		<title>By: Terreson</title>
		<link>http://www.poetryfoundation.org/harriet/2009/08/post-on-the-post/#comment-24907</link>
		<dc:creator>Terreson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 03:18:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see my most recent post has garnered 2 negative, anonymous votes.  I&#039;ll be clear.  I call those two anonymous voters cowards.  Also in my view when poets go anonymous poetry becomes as trivialized as most people see it.  You cowards in poetry rather prove the point.

Terreson</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see my most recent post has garnered 2 negative, anonymous votes.  I&#8217;ll be clear.  I call those two anonymous voters cowards.  Also in my view when poets go anonymous poetry becomes as trivialized as most people see it.  You cowards in poetry rather prove the point.</p>
<p>Terreson</p>
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		<title>By: Terreson</title>
		<link>http://www.poetryfoundation.org/harriet/2009/08/post-on-the-post/#comment-24878</link>
		<dc:creator>Terreson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 00:12:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kent Johnson says: &quot;Amazing that people are still reading this thread!&quot;

For me at least it has been because the thread has proved  mightily instructive, just as was the Myles/Wienberger stand-off, of what goes down in what one poetry blogger has called the poetry industrial complex.  Are the pickings so slim poets have to bare their teeth and raise their hairs in order to make themselves look bigger than they are?  To me it&#039;s all just silverback behavior.

Terreson</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kent Johnson says: &#8220;Amazing that people are still reading this thread!&#8221;</p>
<p>For me at least it has been because the thread has proved  mightily instructive, just as was the Myles/Wienberger stand-off, of what goes down in what one poetry blogger has called the poetry industrial complex.  Are the pickings so slim poets have to bare their teeth and raise their hairs in order to make themselves look bigger than they are?  To me it&#8217;s all just silverback behavior.</p>
<p>Terreson</p>
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		<title>By: Kent Johnson</title>
		<link>http://www.poetryfoundation.org/harriet/2009/08/post-on-the-post/#comment-24847</link>
		<dc:creator>Kent Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 20:19:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gary, I&#039;m pretty sure he&#039;s referring to this:

http://jacketmagazine.com/04/ganderyasu.html

The piece is also contained in Gander&#039;s collection of essays, A Faithful Existence, and if you like his stuff, you should check out this book, where the essay form gets taken in some strange, inspiring directions!

Amazing that people are still reading this thread!

best,

Kent</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gary, I&#8217;m pretty sure he&#8217;s referring to this:</p>
<p><a href="http://jacketmagazine.com/04/ganderyasu.html" rel="nofollow">http://jacketmagazine.com/04/ganderyasu.html</a></p>
<p>The piece is also contained in Gander&#8217;s collection of essays, A Faithful Existence, and if you like his stuff, you should check out this book, where the essay form gets taken in some strange, inspiring directions!</p>
<p>Amazing that people are still reading this thread!</p>
<p>best,</p>
<p>Kent</p>
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		<title>By: Gary B. Fitzgerald</title>
		<link>http://www.poetryfoundation.org/harriet/2009/08/post-on-the-post/#comment-24841</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary B. Fitzgerald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 19:50:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kent:

Sato-san said: &quot;I have just read Forrest [Gander]’s thoughtful comments online.&quot;

Where would one find these?

Thanks,
Gary</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kent:</p>
<p>Sato-san said: &#8220;I have just read Forrest [Gander]’s thoughtful comments online.&#8221;</p>
<p>Where would one find these?</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
Gary</p>
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		<title>By: thomas brady</title>
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		<dc:creator>thomas brady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 19:28:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kent,

If Bill Knott is nothing to Sato, how can it possibly mean anything to anyone, other than yourself, what Sato says to you in private correspondence re: Bill Knott, when you clearly told Sato that Bill Knott “attacked” you.  What is Sato supposed to say:  &#039;It’s good, at this &quot;late date,&quot; that Bill Knott &quot;attacked&quot; you!&#039;??

Further, Sato clearly doesn’t remember, or care, about Double Flowering, and naturally has nothing to say, since he perfunctorily defers to someone else’s (your friend’s?) “erudition.”  

If you think Bill is going to be impressed by this, you must not think him very savvy.   

Thanks for sharing, though.  It gave me a chuckle.

Thomas</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kent,</p>
<p>If Bill Knott is nothing to Sato, how can it possibly mean anything to anyone, other than yourself, what Sato says to you in private correspondence re: Bill Knott, when you clearly told Sato that Bill Knott “attacked” you.  What is Sato supposed to say:  &#8216;It’s good, at this &#8220;late date,&#8221; that Bill Knott &#8220;attacked&#8221; you!&#8217;??</p>
<p>Further, Sato clearly doesn’t remember, or care, about Double Flowering, and naturally has nothing to say, since he perfunctorily defers to someone else’s (your friend’s?) “erudition.”  </p>
<p>If you think Bill is going to be impressed by this, you must not think him very savvy.   </p>
<p>Thanks for sharing, though.  It gave me a chuckle.</p>
<p>Thomas</p>
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		<title>By: Kent Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kent Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 17:42:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, Bill. 

Not many readers will see this, since the post is now in the &quot;older posts&quot; index, but here&#039;s a synopsis (with portion of letter) from what Hiroaki Sato said, since you invoked his name yesterday, asserting (calling me all sorts of bad things as you did so) that you would &quot;never say another word about the matter&quot; if &quot;someone like Sato&quot; expressed any kind of support for the Yasusada work.

The email from Sato came this morning. It begins with him saying it&#039;s been a long time and that by coincidence he was about to write me on something else [added funny salutations, etc.] Then he says, in regards to the &quot;Araki Yasusada affair,&quot; that he remembers being called, some thirteen years ago by the author of the Lingua Franca article, but can&#039;t remember exactly what the conversation was about or what he even said [added funny remark about his memory and such]. Then he goes on to say:

&quot;My first question is: If it has been recognized that Doubled Flowering is 
something made up literarily, why does Bill Knott (of whom I know
nothing) continue to attack you or anybody else, for that matter, at
this late date? Second, when some weighty, erudite people like Forrest
Gander and Hosea Hirata made positive statements on the affair such a
long time ago, why does Knott keep harping on the matter, or what more
can I add to pacify him? (I have just read Forrest&#039;s thoughtful comments
online. As to Hosea, I am not conversant with Derrida et al., as I said
when I reviewed his Nishiwaki book.) Perhaps there is something I don&#039;t
know about. (I am not used to the blog business, and seem unable to go
to the posting you have specified.)&quot; [More salutations, etc. and link to a recent review by him for an English-language newspaper in Japan.] 

(signed) Hiro

So, there you go. Have a good day, and keep practicing those dance steps.

:~)

Kent</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, Bill. </p>
<p>Not many readers will see this, since the post is now in the &#8220;older posts&#8221; index, but here&#8217;s a synopsis (with portion of letter) from what Hiroaki Sato said, since you invoked his name yesterday, asserting (calling me all sorts of bad things as you did so) that you would &#8220;never say another word about the matter&#8221; if &#8220;someone like Sato&#8221; expressed any kind of support for the Yasusada work.</p>
<p>The email from Sato came this morning. It begins with him saying it&#8217;s been a long time and that by coincidence he was about to write me on something else [added funny salutations, etc.] Then he says, in regards to the &#8220;Araki Yasusada affair,&#8221; that he remembers being called, some thirteen years ago by the author of the Lingua Franca article, but can&#8217;t remember exactly what the conversation was about or what he even said [added funny remark about his memory and such]. Then he goes on to say:</p>
<p>&#8220;My first question is: If it has been recognized that Doubled Flowering is<br />
something made up literarily, why does Bill Knott (of whom I know<br />
nothing) continue to attack you or anybody else, for that matter, at<br />
this late date? Second, when some weighty, erudite people like Forrest<br />
Gander and Hosea Hirata made positive statements on the affair such a<br />
long time ago, why does Knott keep harping on the matter, or what more<br />
can I add to pacify him? (I have just read Forrest&#8217;s thoughtful comments<br />
online. As to Hosea, I am not conversant with Derrida et al., as I said<br />
when I reviewed his Nishiwaki book.) Perhaps there is something I don&#8217;t<br />
know about. (I am not used to the blog business, and seem unable to go<br />
to the posting you have specified.)&#8221; [More salutations, etc. and link to a recent review by him for an English-language newspaper in Japan.] </p>
<p>(signed) Hiro</p>
<p>So, there you go. Have a good day, and keep practicing those dance steps.</p>
<p>:~)</p>
<p>Kent</p>
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		<title>By: thomas brady</title>
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		<dc:creator>thomas brady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 15:10:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Let&#039;s dance.&quot;

That was painful to watch.

Robbins: nice beard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Let&#8217;s dance.&#8221;</p>
<p>That was painful to watch.</p>
<p>Robbins: nice beard.</p>
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		<title>By: Kent Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kent Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 15:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill Knott said:

&gt;okay, Smithkent: get Sato to write a blurb praising your “project”, and you’ll never hear another word out of me about it . . and while you’re at it you might tell your pals at the Nation and Jacket to run some feature reviews
of Sato’s books...

So Bill, I just heard this morning from Hiroaki Sato. I&#039;ll check back in later, and tell you what he said. His message is not in the form of a &quot;blurb,&quot; but I hope you&#039;ll stick to your promise above, after you see. You can of course contact him to verify, later, if you wish.

Kent</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill Knott said:</p>
<p>&gt;okay, Smithkent: get Sato to write a blurb praising your “project”, and you’ll never hear another word out of me about it . . and while you’re at it you might tell your pals at the Nation and Jacket to run some feature reviews<br />
of Sato’s books&#8230;</p>
<p>So Bill, I just heard this morning from Hiroaki Sato. I&#8217;ll check back in later, and tell you what he said. His message is not in the form of a &#8220;blurb,&#8221; but I hope you&#8217;ll stick to your promise above, after you see. You can of course contact him to verify, later, if you wish.</p>
<p>Kent</p>
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		<title>By: Kent Johnson</title>
		<link>http://www.poetryfoundation.org/harriet/2009/08/post-on-the-post/#comment-24709</link>
		<dc:creator>Kent Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 01:49:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alright already. Let&#039;s dance.
 
http://www.digitalemunction.com/2009/08/30/next-week-at-harriet/
 
l to r: Myles, Share, me, Knott, Robbins.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alright already. Let&#8217;s dance.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.digitalemunction.com/2009/08/30/next-week-at-harriet/" rel="nofollow">http://www.digitalemunction.com/2009/08/30/next-week-at-harriet/</a></p>
<p>l to r: Myles, Share, me, Knott, Robbins.</p>
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		<title>By: robbins</title>
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		<dc:creator>robbins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 01:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, if you&#039;d read my reviews in &lt;i&gt;Poetry&lt;/i&gt;, you&#039;d know that I&#039;m hardly averse to going &quot;Logany,&quot; if that means risking offense. My negative reviews of Ruth Stone, Reginald Gibbons, &amp;, in the forthcoming issue, J. D. McClatchy, could not be harsher.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, if you&#8217;d read my reviews in <i>Poetry</i>, you&#8217;d know that I&#8217;m hardly averse to going &#8220;Logany,&#8221; if that means risking offense. My negative reviews of Ruth Stone, Reginald Gibbons, &amp;, in the forthcoming issue, J. D. McClatchy, could not be harsher.</p>
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