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		<title>By: THINK</title>
		<link>http://www.poetryfoundation.org/harriet/2009/11/senor-smith-to-you/#comment-26587</link>
		<dc:creator>THINK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 15:58:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The folks who make programming decesions at most museums in New York when it comes to people of color play intellectually, culturally, and politically fast and loose. Here is a museum that was founded by Puerto Ricans now giving &quot;license&quot; to the word &quot;spic&quot; as if it can be decontextualized from a racist social and political history. In other words, walk out to the corner of Madison and 104th Street and discuss the viability of the word &quot;spic&quot; with the folks in Spanish Harlem. See what &quot;they&quot; have to say.

Can you imagine if a New York museum funded a series called &quot;Kike/Kite: Speak Out?&quot; Do you think members of the Jewish community would be sitting around discussing the post-modern importance of &quot;kike.&quot;

The larger fallacy is for Latinos/Latinas to go to colleges and universities and then adopt the theories of white folks wholesale and then apply them to Latino/Latina culture without any real examination.

El-Museo does not have to resort to gimmicks to develop programming. As if stands now, it is already culturally de-linked from the very Latino community that it is a part of (which is a conversation in itself) and this program merely demonstrates why it might as well be just like any other white museum in New York City that has no regard for the real cultural contributions of Latinos/Latinas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The folks who make programming decesions at most museums in New York when it comes to people of color play intellectually, culturally, and politically fast and loose. Here is a museum that was founded by Puerto Ricans now giving &#8220;license&#8221; to the word &#8220;spic&#8221; as if it can be decontextualized from a racist social and political history. In other words, walk out to the corner of Madison and 104th Street and discuss the viability of the word &#8220;spic&#8221; with the folks in Spanish Harlem. See what &#8220;they&#8221; have to say.</p>
<p>Can you imagine if a New York museum funded a series called &#8220;Kike/Kite: Speak Out?&#8221; Do you think members of the Jewish community would be sitting around discussing the post-modern importance of &#8220;kike.&#8221;</p>
<p>The larger fallacy is for Latinos/Latinas to go to colleges and universities and then adopt the theories of white folks wholesale and then apply them to Latino/Latina culture without any real examination.</p>
<p>El-Museo does not have to resort to gimmicks to develop programming. As if stands now, it is already culturally de-linked from the very Latino community that it is a part of (which is a conversation in itself) and this program merely demonstrates why it might as well be just like any other white museum in New York City that has no regard for the real cultural contributions of Latinos/Latinas.<br /><span id="reportcomment_results_div_26587"><a href="javascript:void(0);" onclick="reportComment( 26587 );" title="Report this comment" rel="nofollow">Report this comment</a></span></p>
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		<title>By: Edwin Torres</title>
		<link>http://www.poetryfoundation.org/harriet/2009/11/senor-smith-to-you/#comment-26517</link>
		<dc:creator>Edwin Torres</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 11:52:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To &#039;move body beyond name&#039;, is exactly right...&#039;to claim word as name&#039; is a springboard for that statement to have come to life—&quot;word&quot; meaning &quot;language&quot; not &quot;spic.&quot; The thought of standing behind a name implies standing behind an ethnicity. My hope is to move beyond ethnicity, beyond my name to create art from body, a move towards &quot;body-being&quot; the goal.

The body looks to absorb the world it&#039;s in. A larger world than one country, one name. When &quot;place&quot; is determined as &quot;name,&quot; is when body disappears. I lose identity in &#039;identity-based&#039; work because I don&#039;t want to relate to &quot;your name&quot; I want to relate to &quot;your body.&quot; Person-to-person-light. Body-being is my claim, my challenge...to remain relevant to a world in constant motion.

If our molecular mass is in concert with the earth&#039;s gyration, getting stuck in racist tags is what shuts the flowering body, keeps it from its natural state of evolving. In the re-invention of identity beyond &quot;being&quot; into &quot;language&quot;, is there a chance of a word&#039;s existence as my new identity? Do I re-appropriate racism if my territory is no longer a nation but a letter, a poem?

As advanced as the mainstream may feel that society has become, this is a reminder that dismissing our differences is another obstacle to our natural state.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To &#8216;move body beyond name&#8217;, is exactly right&#8230;&#8217;to claim word as name&#8217; is a springboard for that statement to have come to life—&#8221;word&#8221; meaning &#8220;language&#8221; not &#8220;spic.&#8221; The thought of standing behind a name implies standing behind an ethnicity. My hope is to move beyond ethnicity, beyond my name to create art from body, a move towards &#8220;body-being&#8221; the goal.</p>
<p>The body looks to absorb the world it&#8217;s in. A larger world than one country, one name. When &#8220;place&#8221; is determined as &#8220;name,&#8221; is when body disappears. I lose identity in &#8216;identity-based&#8217; work because I don&#8217;t want to relate to &#8220;your name&#8221; I want to relate to &#8220;your body.&#8221; Person-to-person-light. Body-being is my claim, my challenge&#8230;to remain relevant to a world in constant motion.</p>
<p>If our molecular mass is in concert with the earth&#8217;s gyration, getting stuck in racist tags is what shuts the flowering body, keeps it from its natural state of evolving. In the re-invention of identity beyond &#8220;being&#8221; into &#8220;language&#8221;, is there a chance of a word&#8217;s existence as my new identity? Do I re-appropriate racism if my territory is no longer a nation but a letter, a poem?</p>
<p>As advanced as the mainstream may feel that society has become, this is a reminder that dismissing our differences is another obstacle to our natural state.<br /><span id="reportcomment_results_div_26517"><a href="javascript:void(0);" onclick="reportComment( 26517 );" title="Report this comment" rel="nofollow">Report this comment</a></span></p>
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		<title>By: michael james</title>
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		<dc:creator>michael james</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 00:54:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reclaiming a racist word doesn&#039;t give the racists an excuse to use it against you. Whatever power it had it will have and continue to have over you, whether it is reclaimed or not. The &quot;gga&quot; was of course an outgrowth to convert power (not necessarily remove) from negative to positive. The power of &quot;gger&quot; remained as it was. And still remains. But the power isn&#039;t in the word as it is in the thoughts/state of minds which lie behind the racist word being used (moving here from a specific racist word to all words used in that way).

When a racist word is used -- In my personal experience -- the idea rises whether this person is using this word out of ignorance because social constructs have forced him/her to have this gut reaction of using this specific word associated with this specific ethnicity when anger/frustrated/or with feelings of being wronged or perhaps some sort of complex and they do not actually feel that way. Whichever. Or it could mean they actually do feel that way (another form of ignorance). There are many possibilities. Whether people chose to believe this or not, I believe it isn&#039;t always about the word(s) being used but the ignorance behind having to use such a word.

&quot;So I’m thrust into reflection over name-calling versus body-being&quot;

-and-

&quot;Say, I am better than one word. Claim word as name. Say yes, and face what name brings.&quot;

Body-being, yes. I like this. But I do not wish to claim word as name. I wish to claim body as name to move body beyond name and name beyond body. When two are one two no longer can exist, it is now one.

We are better than one word, but can one be better than a global construction of &#039;ways of thinking&#039;? Such as distinctions between being black/brown/white/yellow/red, when, scientifically speaking, we are all various shades of brown. And even when you pointing out this obvious linguistic mistake by holding up a black object and a white object, for example, and asking people if they are either of these colors, they tend to scoff. It must take the deconstruction of constructed (with purpose) thought, to move beyond the cycle of what &quot;claiming word as name&quot; brings. Then we&#039;re only getting on a bus that drives in concentric circles; the illusion of movement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reclaiming a racist word doesn&#8217;t give the racists an excuse to use it against you. Whatever power it had it will have and continue to have over you, whether it is reclaimed or not. The &#8220;gga&#8221; was of course an outgrowth to convert power (not necessarily remove) from negative to positive. The power of &#8220;gger&#8221; remained as it was. And still remains. But the power isn&#8217;t in the word as it is in the thoughts/state of minds which lie behind the racist word being used (moving here from a specific racist word to all words used in that way).</p>
<p>When a racist word is used &#8212; In my personal experience &#8212; the idea rises whether this person is using this word out of ignorance because social constructs have forced him/her to have this gut reaction of using this specific word associated with this specific ethnicity when anger/frustrated/or with feelings of being wronged or perhaps some sort of complex and they do not actually feel that way. Whichever. Or it could mean they actually do feel that way (another form of ignorance). There are many possibilities. Whether people chose to believe this or not, I believe it isn&#8217;t always about the word(s) being used but the ignorance behind having to use such a word.</p>
<p>&#8220;So I’m thrust into reflection over name-calling versus body-being&#8221;</p>
<p>-and-</p>
<p>&#8220;Say, I am better than one word. Claim word as name. Say yes, and face what name brings.&#8221;</p>
<p>Body-being, yes. I like this. But I do not wish to claim word as name. I wish to claim body as name to move body beyond name and name beyond body. When two are one two no longer can exist, it is now one.</p>
<p>We are better than one word, but can one be better than a global construction of &#8216;ways of thinking&#8217;? Such as distinctions between being black/brown/white/yellow/red, when, scientifically speaking, we are all various shades of brown. And even when you pointing out this obvious linguistic mistake by holding up a black object and a white object, for example, and asking people if they are either of these colors, they tend to scoff. It must take the deconstruction of constructed (with purpose) thought, to move beyond the cycle of what &#8220;claiming word as name&#8221; brings. Then we&#8217;re only getting on a bus that drives in concentric circles; the illusion of movement.<br /><span id="reportcomment_results_div_26503"><a href="javascript:void(0);" onclick="reportComment( 26503 );" title="Report this comment" rel="nofollow">Report this comment</a></span></p>
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		<title>By: Jill</title>
		<link>http://www.poetryfoundation.org/harriet/2009/11/senor-smith-to-you/#comment-26471</link>
		<dc:creator>Jill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:43:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doesn&#039;t &quot;reclaiming&quot; a racist word just give the racists an excuse to use it against you?  Also, in the curious case of the n-word(s), there&#039;s a big difference between the one that ends in &quot;gga&quot; and the one that ends in &quot;gger,&quot; right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doesn&#8217;t &#8220;reclaiming&#8221; a racist word just give the racists an excuse to use it against you?  Also, in the curious case of the n-word(s), there&#8217;s a big difference between the one that ends in &#8220;gga&#8221; and the one that ends in &#8220;gger,&#8221; right?<br /><span id="reportcomment_results_div_26471"><a href="javascript:void(0);" onclick="reportComment( 26471 );" title="Report this comment" rel="nofollow">Report this comment</a></span></p>
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