Cecilia Corrigan in Interview Magazine!
Poet, performer, and all-around girl-next-supernova Cecilia Corrigan is interviewed at Interview Magazine! This is not a parallel universe--this is a now-universe, starring Sarah Nicole Prickett. Corrigan sets the record "less straight," as she put it on Twitter. They have quite the exchange. "[CORRIGAN:] ...Sometimes I think I'm just one of those motherfuckers who wants what they can't have. PRICKETT: That's actually the definition of 'motherfucker.'" Read on:
PRICKETT: Who's your favorite witch in a Disney movie?
CORRIGAN: Ursula, obviously. I really freaked out this group of Victorianists the other day when I mentioned that I had a princess-witch fetish, and I was like, "Wait, I thought everyone lusted for Ursula?" I've always had a thing for villains, maybe because I feel like I'm allowed to lash out at them.
PRICKETT: Witches are totally sexual, and that's why the movies make them old, so that they're bitter instead of excessive. I'm obsessed with older women artists who are quote-unquote allowed to do erotics now that they're no longer considered hot enough to be self-portraitists, or any kind of sexual threat. I'm thinking about Marilyn Minter, who's obviously actually hot. Or Dorothy Iannone.
CORRIGAN: Tracey Emin. Renee Cox.
PRICKETT: Lisa Yuskavage. Lynda Benglis. Neither art criticism nor critical feminism treated any of these women fairly in the '90s, or in the '70s. Rosalind Krauss hated Lynda Benglis—the girl with the dick in ArtForum—and I swear to god it's because Lynda Benglis was having too much fun.
CORRIGAN: I think I get away with having fun because I'm flawed and self-deprecating in performance. I'm willing to make a fool out of myself, which people love. But I'm waiting for the other shoe to drop. I'm also not super into the idea that I should have to offer myself up as a helpless, neurotic girl in order to experience enjoyment of myself. I've already gotten some hecklers, and they're usually just yelling the same stuff I'm up there making jokes about. Like, "Yeah, dude. Exactly." I'm self-hating, but I'm not actually abject.
PRICKETT: I like to tell people that I outsource my self-loathing.
CORRIGAN: I admire that skill. I've recently realized that most of my work is a way of taking all the negative things I think about myself and pushing them so far that they become absurd. I think I do work from the assumption that I am ridiculous—my brain is so not on my side most of the time. I'm never good enough, I'm never doing enough, but I also find that nothing anyone else says to me is going to make that better. When someone tells me it's going to work out, I don't feel better.
PRICKETT: Because deep down, Cecilia, do you care about anyone's opinion except your own?
Find out at Interview. Photograph of Cecilia Corrigan by Christian Högstedt.